How logic and debates based on logic cannot save a soul, going to hell.

 
john32
 
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21 May 2013 11:35
 

A very big deception of the devil is to get you to logically debate God, Christianity and other religions. This is one of the surest ways to ensure, that you will never experience real salvation and eternal life, and all the wonderful things God has predestined for you.

Let us just suppose (for those who do not have faith), that even if you argue and debate, and finally, even if it is a long shot, and you finally are logically convinced (by the way, there are many books,eg by thomas equinas that logically prove the christian faith) that there is a God, and that He is the christian God. Does it mean you are going to heaven, just because you are mentally or intellectually convinced that Jesus is God??????

Not at all. Not unless you have a spiritual experience called being born again.A logical belief in Christianity will prevent you from experiencing the Real Deal, that is a Spiritual Salvation in Christ in the following ways:

The devil was once a mighty archangel, and presently with billions of demons, evil spirits, unclean spirits, etc with a far superior intelligence than humans.Each human being is assigned to tens, if not hundreds of evil spirits and demon hordes, that would love for you to deny their existence. For if you deny their existence, then surely you will deny God’s existence. It is extremely easy, 1,2,3 steps for Satan to deceive humans in more than a thousand ways.

Don’t even think for a moment, that you can compete with satan intellectually. However, he has no control over your heart, and what you choose to believe.And that is the loophole, which God has opened up for you. The faith route is the only way you can bypass Satan,and his cronies who guard the intellectual gates of the human mind.

When you get in to the logic debate about God, few important things to consider in SPIRITUAL WORLD which is what actually matters:

1) You could be tempted to fall into the dungeon of SPIRITUAL PRIDE, as you are tricked into judging Almighty God, which is a fool’s folly.Spiritual pride was the reason, for satan’s downfall. Also for man’s downfall, in garden of eden, as eve sucumbed to the temptation about being as knowledgeable as God.

This could also result in the person who is logically convinced that Jesus is God, as an intellectual knowledge of the truth, will become a STUMBLING BLOCK for a real SPIRITUAL SALVATION experience.

2) It could also lead to DECEPTION as the person, cannot find God in the intellectual domain, but only in the Spiritual domain. God’s thoughts are far higher than yours, mine and the devil’s, so you have to trust Him at His word. As it is written in the bible:
Trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding.

God is spirit, only a spiritual born again experience can save the person, and the first thing to do is to humble ourselves. Second, we need deliverance from demonic spirits of unbelief that hold people as captives. This can be done if the person humbles himself/herself and receives Jesus Christ into the heart. Deliverance can be done even online, and specific prayers can set the captives free.

I speak from experience. Not here to argue with anyone.

Simple challenge for those who are sincere: Ask God to open your eyes, and to reveal Himself to you.Ask in JESUS name.Simple. Try it. IT WORKS

 
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21 May 2013 11:43
 

If you do not wish to argue with anyone I suggest that you keep this shit to yourself, this is not a platform for preaching. I hope that the moderators see fit to remove the above nonsense.


RUN FOREST RUN!!

 
 
Nhoj Morley
 
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21 May 2013 11:57
 

Mr. Boagie is correct. This is a discussion forum and not an ad bin for untestable claims.

 
 
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21 May 2013 11:58
 
boagie - 21 May 2013 11:43 AM

If you do not wish to argue with anyone I suggest that you keep this shit to yourself, this is not a platform for preaching. I hope that the moderators see fit to remove the above nonsense.


Why bother?

Some may find it amusing or even psychologically interesting, or something, and there’s no reason anyone else should read beyond a sentence or two.

 
 
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21 May 2013 13:10
 


This again is not a platform for preaching, tolerate this and you open Pandora’s box. This is a place for rational discourse, the man states himself that this is not his desire, he wishes to indulge himself in self righteous proclamations. Apparently the administration agrees, so hopeful this nonsense will be deleted. There is no lack of resources on the web or in the community for holy babble, if you find it to your taste.

[ Edited: 21 May 2013 13:18 by boagie]
 
 
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21 May 2013 13:21
 

If this is the extent of Mr. 32’s presence, we won’t worry about it.

If this actually an application for the new Dunk Tank Clown position, call me. I’ve seen worse.

 
 
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21 May 2013 13:25
 

Nhoj Morley,

Very good, thanks for the input.