Alcohol is apparently an addictive drug to millions of people.  When this is finally part of our kid’s education, it might cut back on the number of alcoholics we have to worry about.

I do not want another government prohibition issued by the do-gooders but can only hope we pass this information down to the next generation.

Again, if it works, and keeps people from ruining their lives, is it still evil?

[quote author=“Ellecram”]For the last 18 months I have been involved in several online groups that discuss the cult aspects and subsequent harm caused by coerced (and chosen) involvement in AA/NA or any of the 12 step model groups prevalent in addiction treatment.

Elle

Nope—I’m VERY familiar with them. They believe that spiritualism can heal their problems—their “higher power” can be anything of their choosing.

Ben B.
BRAC Member

I guess so. 

Initially, the 12-step process was considered to be a Christian belief as it regards God as the highest power adding in the recovery process. This leads to many individuals avoiding the use of the AA 12-step program to recover. Over time, many recovery groups have amended the Christianity-oriented 12 rules of AA to make it acceptable for people with contrary beliefs. Now, people from different religious beliefs are employed in Alcoholics Anonymous.

The idea that you can get the help of a “higher power” when your own efforts are insufficient is a psychological trick similar to visualizing yourself in the future when making current decisions or having a picture of watching eyes near an unguarded cookie jar.
Nothing supernatural about it.

I want to give due credit to the AA and NA organizers I know personally who make the effort to be inclusive and, as much as possible, non dogmatic. Often suggesting that god can be an acronym of your choosing.

Not to defend the logic of this mind you, but rather the earnest sentiment and spirit of resourcefulness. I don’t personally subscribe to the AA method but I know many people who consider it essential to their survival.

I think the steps are valid. Just not exclusive. I don’t personally like the notion of describing a habit as a disease but I respect that substance abuse is, for many people effectively inherited.

If I could change one thing it would be AA’s entanglement with the court system. I think mandating this kind of treatment both violates civil liberties and defeats the treatment at the level of concept… given the role of personal ownership and sincere desire within the steps.

I do think its good to be open minded about the kinds of tools that different people need to thrive.