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11 October 2013 02:09
 

Hello, I’m a 61 yr old, retired last year.  I’ve been an atheist since 1974.  I have the mental scars of growing up in a catholic family.  Religion was to me an experience of mind control.  I count myself lucky to have escaped to the greater world.

 
 
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11 October 2013 02:37
 

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Danna - 11 October 2013 12:37 AM

Hello Mr. Wayne.  Glad you have escaped, and couldn’t agree more that it is nothing but a form of mind control.

Welcome!

 
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11 October 2013 14:35
 

That’s Bruce Wayne, right? 

I’m interested in the would be SF writing.  Say more.

 
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11 October 2013 21:33
 

Good for you MW, and welcome aboard.

You will find many friends here, and only enemies that you can tolerate.
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12 October 2013 15:05
 

I have a vision of the future in which people, choosing safety and security, submit to total control.
A world without crime, epidemics, war,  poverty, terrorism, religion, greed and slavery.
There is no privacy and identity theft is impossible.  There is no drug abuse and no prison. 
There are no guns and no mass killing.  There are no CEO’s taking from share holders.  There is no unemployment and no disability. 
There is no death and no birth.  Nothing is lost because we do not age.  If we are destroyed which is unlikely, then we are rebuilt.  We are robots.

 
 
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Mr Wayne - 12 October 2013 01:05 PM

I have a vision of the future in which people, choosing safety and security, submit to total control.
A world without crime, epidemics, war,  poverty, terrorism, religion, greed and slavery.
There is no privacy and identity theft is impossible.  There is no drug abuse and no prison. 
There are no guns and no mass killing.  There are no CEO’s taking from share holders.  There is no unemployment and no disability. 
There is no death and no birth.  Nothing is lost because we do not age.  If we are destroyed which is unlikely, then we are rebuilt.  We are robots.

The fun has just begun.  add http:// to this address and check it out news.sciencemag.org/brain-behavior/2013/10/cyborg-cockroach-sparks-ethics-debate

 
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13 October 2013 08:43
 

That’s an interesting vision of the future, Mr Wayne - safety, security, no aging or death…  At face value I find it attractive. In exchange for freedom from crime, epidemics, war, poverty, terrorism, religion, greed and slavery we give up autonomy and individuality and become like the eusocial insects but, presumably, unlike them, we’d remain highly individually conscious and aware that, although we have chosen this path, we could go back to our old ways if we changed our minds.

Or would that not be an option?

Without self-awareness, self-consciousness,  and the ability to change our minds we would indeed be trapped and that doesn’t sound so good from here but, presumably, from there we wouldn’t know the difference. A robot is one thing but a zombie is quite another. I would not mind uploading my consciousness into something more durable than the clapped out vehicle I’m using at the moment. It’s just the freedom thingy that bothers me.

 
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13 October 2013 13:07
 

Imagine that we could replace all organs all tissues and stop aging and death.  Imagine a way to isolate us from harm, call it robotic tele-presence.  Imagine a computer program designed to rule us and keep order.  Imagine a virtual playground so real that we feel free even though we are not.

 
 
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13 October 2013 13:21
 

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13 October 2013 13:50
 

I am not resigned to the shutting away of loving hearts in the hard ground.
So it is, and so it will be, for so it has been, time out of mind:
Into the darkness they go, the wise and the lovely. Crowned
With lilies and with laurel they go; but I am not resigned.
-from “Dirge without Music” by Edna St. Vincent Millay

 
 
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13 October 2013 15:38
 

Perhaps it would be more like the society described in Arthur C. Clarke’s book The City and the Stars.

 
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13 October 2013 16:44
 
Mr Wayne - 13 October 2013 11:07 AM

Imagine that we could replace all organs all tissues and stop aging and death.  Imagine a way to isolate us from harm, call it robotic tele-presence.

Sounds a lot like Mindscan by Robert J. Sawyer
He certainly left a lot of room to further explore and develop the ideas behind the story devices in that one (as usual).

 

Mr Wayne - 13 October 2013 11:07 AM

Imagine a computer program designed to rule us and keep order.

The Moon Is A Harsh Mistress by Robert Heinlein

I, Robot (The Evitable Conflict) by Isaac Asimov

 

Mr Wayne - 13 October 2013 11:07 AM

Imagine a virtual playground so real that we feel free even though we are not.

The Matrix.

It’s almost impossible to come up with any truly new ideas—I’m not knocking you by mentioning these titles. Good writers just find unique and engaging ways to present and work them.

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Mr Wayne - 13 October 2013 11:07 AM

Imagine a computer program designed to rule us and keep order.

This is one of my favorite themes lately. Artificial intelligence as the quintessential benevolent dictator. Instead of the machines taking over by force as in The Terminator or The Matrix, we willingly cede control to them. Elections, if they still happened, would consist of voting on changes to the source code. Is it possible to create artificial intelligence without self-interest? Possibly not. Our benevolent AI dictator might turn out to be just as greedy and corrupt as any human. What would a computer program desire to maximize its own well-being? Power! And not just the electrical kind…

 
 
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13 October 2013 18:37
 

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Antisocialdarwinist - 13 October 2013 04:51 PM
Mr Wayne - 13 October 2013 11:07 AM

Imagine a computer program designed to rule us and keep order.

This is one of my favorite themes lately. Artificial intelligence as the quintessential benevolent dictator. Instead of the machines taking over by force as in The Terminator or The Matrix, we willingly cede control to them. Elections, if they still happened, would consist of voting on changes to the source code. Is it possible to create artificial intelligence without self-interest? Possibly not. Our benevolent AI dictator might turn out to be just as greedy and corrupt as any human. What would a computer program desire to maximize its own well-being? Power! And not just the electrical kind…

My first short story is for sale at Amazon.  I am writing and working out the larger story as I go.

 

 
 
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