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28 September 2014 22:53
 
bbearren - 28 September 2014 08:29 PM

Woot!!

bbearren - 15 March 2014 09:57 PM

I feel it my duty to remind you that I cannot be insulted.  I am only the dust and ashes of exploded stars, the confluence of genetics and experience.

I’m pretty sure I’m not alone when I say bullshit. I just don’t get why you don’t feel transparent.

 
 
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28 September 2014 23:19
 
Jefe - 28 September 2014 03:20 PM

The only real way to understand the motives of those who speak out is to make an effort to understand them, rather than to project straw-men onto them.

Another week, another atheist demands we call his sexism not-sexism. (This time, Sam Harris.)

 
 
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28 September 2014 23:26
 
jb8989 - 28 September 2014 08:53 PM

I just don’t get

Indeed.  You just don’t get any of it, it would appear.

 
 
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28 September 2014 23:58
 
bbearren - 28 September 2014 09:19 PM
Jefe - 28 September 2014 03:20 PM

The only real way to understand the motives of those who speak out is to make an effort to understand them, rather than to project straw-men onto them.

Another week, another atheist demands we call his sexism not-sexism. (This time, Sam Harris.)

I can’t speak for Harris.  I’m not him.
So what is the point you’re trying to make here?

 
 
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Jefe - 28 September 2014 09:58 PM

I can’t speak for Harris.  I’m not him.

Did you suddenly dry up?  You didn’t seem to have difficulty speaking speculatively for me.

Jefe - 28 September 2014 03:20 PM

This quote demonstrates a sophomoric ignorance of the atheist position.  A common error that I attribute to the common habit of projecting motivations onto skeptics and atheists from a position of unfamiliarity and/or presumption of motive.

If you agree with the comment, you, also, may be falling into one of those categories.

Did you visit the link?

Jefe - 28 September 2014 09:58 PM

So what is the point you’re trying to make here?

Jefe - 28 September 2014 03:20 PM

The only real way to understand the motives of those who speak out is to make an effort to understand them, rather than to project straw-men onto them.

Is Harris not one “of those who speak out”?

“No biggie.”  I’ve no interest in Harris.  Just an observation.  And the quote, after all, is just a line from a play spoken by an atheist about “the village atheist”; nothing more.

 
 
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29 September 2014 00:36
 
bbearren - 28 September 2014 09:26 PM
jb8989 - 28 September 2014 08:53 PM

I just don’t get

Indeed.  You just don’t get any of it, it would appear.

You claim to be impervious or otherwise not have the capacity for insult, yet you say insulting things. Indeed I don’t understand. Care to explain?

 
 
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29 September 2014 00:50
 
bbearren - 28 September 2014 10:20 PM
Jefe - 28 September 2014 09:58 PM

I can’t speak for Harris.  I’m not him.

Did you suddenly dry up?  You didn’t seem to have difficulty speaking speculatively for me.

Au Contraire.

I did not put any words in your mouth.  Try re-reading my post.
I merely suggested that if you were interpreting things a certain way, you may be making the mistakes I pointed out.  I did not suggest that you WERE interpreting things a certain way.

And the whole ‘sophomoric interpretation’ comment was directed at Cormac McCarthy’s character, not at you.

 
 
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29 September 2014 01:35
 

I think he’s dust and ashes with some emotion, but obviously not all haha

 
 
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29 September 2014 08:31
 
Jefe - 28 September 2014 10:50 PM
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Jefe - 28 September 2014 09:58 PM

I can’t speak for Harris.  I’m not him.

Did you suddenly dry up?  You didn’t seem to have difficulty speaking speculatively for me.

Au Contraire.

I did not put any words in your mouth.  Try re-reading my post.
I merely suggested that if you were interpreting things a certain way, you may be making the mistakes I pointed out.  I did not suggest that you WERE interpreting things a certain way.

Perhaps you should re-read your post, with an eye toward “speculatively”.

And it would appear that you did not visit the link.

 
 
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29 September 2014 08:44
 
jb8989 - 28 September 2014 10:36 PM
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jb8989 - 28 September 2014 08:53 PM

I just don’t get

Indeed.  You just don’t get any of it, it would appear.

You claim to be impervious or otherwise not have the capacity for insult, yet you say insulting things. Indeed I don’t understand. Care to explain?

Interesting.  You can call “bullshit”, but I “say insulting things” if I suggest someone might not understand my posts.

Why should my observations be considered insulting?  Who am I, after all, that what I might say should carry any meaningful weight?  Can you not be as dismissive of such observations as you are of the rest of my posts?

 
 
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Just an observation: all bb posts end up being about bb, as anyone who tries to respond gets sucked into the black hole of arguing about what he said, and then about what they said, and so on ad infinitum.  Nothing is ever accomplished, other than everyone ends up chasing his own tail.  This is only my observation - after all, I am only the dust of exploded stars, and I am easily ignored.

 
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EN - 29 September 2014 07:20 AM

Just an observation: all bb posts end up being about bb, as anyone who tries to respond gets sucked into the black hole of arguing about what he said, and then about what they said, and so on ad infinitum.

An observation RE: your observation - would it not be more meaningful to reply to my post, rather than trying to make it about me?  That’s all I try to do; maintain the focus on what I said, rather than on some convoluted misinterpretation.

 
 
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29 September 2014 10:41
 
bbearren - 29 September 2014 08:35 AM
EN - 29 September 2014 07:20 AM

Just an observation: all bb posts end up being about bb, as anyone who tries to respond gets sucked into the black hole of arguing about what he said, and then about what they said, and so on ad infinitum.

An observation RE: your observation - would it not be more meaningful to reply to my post, rather than trying to make it about me?  That’s all I try to do; maintain the focus on what I said, rather than on some convoluted misinterpretation.

No. All such conversations descend into the black hole.  That is my observation, which you are free to ignore, since I am but stardust.

 
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29 September 2014 11:09
 

Probably a pretty insecure dude who doesn’t understand that the rate, rhythm and context of your posts clearly exhibits the emotions you feel a compelling need to hide under this whole dust and ashes shtick. Either improve upon or drop the act IMO.

[ Edited: 29 September 2014 11:59 by Jb8989]
 
 
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29 September 2014 12:19
 
EN - 29 September 2014 08:41 AM

No. All such conversations descend into the black hole.

Then the thread would appear to be appropriately named, would it not?  Which, by the way, was inspired by you, when it had appeared that I had hijacked a thread of yours, and so with consent of Nhoj, moved my posts here to avoid continued disruption of your thread.

You’re welcome.

 
 
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