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Nhoj Morley - 07 May 2019 10:22 AM

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Cheshire Cat - 11 May 2019 03:31 PM
Nhoj Morley - 07 May 2019 10:22 AM

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There is probably more truth to your post than you intended.

 
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Jan_CAN - 15 May 2019 07:25 AM
Antisocialdarwinist - 14 May 2019 02:42 PM

So, can we put the appeal to (tangible) self-interest to bed once and for all? It’s not in our tangible self-interest to sacrifice for future generations. Nor—unless we’ve been indoctrinated to feel so—is it in our intangible self-interest.

The selfish individual may see no tangible benefits to sacrifice for future generations, but life itself, our genes seem to ‘strive’ in that direction.  The evolution of life that favours the survival of those who raise and protect offspring long enough so that they are able to produce offspring, and so on and so on.  The human instinct to protect the young often at some cost to parents attests to this.

And it should not be seen as a ‘sacrifice’ to protect our planet – it was what we should have been doing all along.  It is an evolution in the right direction to use forethought and intention in our use of Mother Earth’s resources.

To your point.  Not only are our genes not selfish; they are the most exquisite cooperators in nature.  They coordinate their own “interest” with the “interests” of all the others on the genome that acts as a template for the organism, the vehicle of their replication.  Without this coordination of interests, the organism as the vehicle of their replication couldn’t even exist.  One could argue, then, plausibly, that the reciprocal coordination of interests in cooperation constitutes the very fabric of who we are. 

If ASD were a gene, he would be eliminated by natural selection.

 

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Q: Nasruddin, how is it that you know so much?

A: When I was young I just started stringing together all the words I could think of. When that got interesting for people I could tell by the expressions on their faces. When that happened I made mental notes of what I’d been saying.

 
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burt - 23 May 2019 02:11 PM

How to Learn and Gain a Reputation

Q: Nasruddin, how is it that you know so much?

A: When I was young I just started stringing together all the words I could think of. When that got interesting for people I could tell by the expressions on their faces. When that happened I made mental notes of what I’d been saying.

Burt, that’s one of the most elegant put-downs I’ve ever read.

 
 
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Cheshire Cat - 25 May 2019 08:57 AM
burt - 23 May 2019 02:11 PM

How to Learn and Gain a Reputation

Q: Nasruddin, how is it that you know so much?

A: When I was young I just started stringing together all the words I could think of. When that got interesting for people I could tell by the expressions on their faces. When that happened I made mental notes of what I’d been saying.

Burt, that’s one of the most elegant put-downs I’ve ever read.

Not original with me.

 
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30 May 2019 20:11
 

What is it with men and their power tools?  We would very much appreciate it if you would please not go at our lovely flowering shrubs with a chain saw; they require careful hand pruning.  Thank you.

 
 
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Jan_CAN - 30 May 2019 08:11 PM

What is it with men and their power tools?  We would very much appreciate it if you would please not go at our lovely flowering shrubs with a chain saw; they require careful hand pruning.  Thank you.

Sexist.  I don’t let my wife and her black thumb near my garden.

 
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Jan_CAN - 30 May 2019 08:11 PM

What is it with men and their power tools?  We would very much appreciate it if you would please not go at our lovely flowering shrubs with a chain saw; they require careful hand pruning.  Thank you.

Sexist.  I don’t let my wife and her black thumb near my garden.

We have a Darwinian garden - only the strong survive.

 
 
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31 May 2019 00:19
 

I’ve only just acquired a garden of my own, it came with the new house I just bought. I’m extremely inexperienced, so my first step in the gardening process was to buy a hanging basket, it went really well, I found a hook and hung it up, job done, it’s quite easy this gardening lark.

 
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MARTIN_UK - 31 May 2019 12:19 AM

I’ve only just acquired a garden of my own, it came with the new house I just bought. I’m extremely inexperienced, so my first step in the gardening process was to buy a hanging basket, it went really well, I found a hook and hung it up, job done, it’s quite easy this gardening lark.

Haha, y’do know that it doesn’t count as gardening unless you get dirt under your fingernails, right?  And I thought the British were born expert gardeners.

Many years ago when we moved into our house in the fall, my father gave me some daffodil bulbs with instructions to plant them about six inches deep and six inches apart.  These came up beautifully the following spring; very satisfying.  That same spring, my father gave me some flower seeds for my side garden.  A few weeks later, he asked me how the flowers were doing and I had to tell him that no flowers had grown.  He asked me how I planted them and if I kept them well watered.  My Dad found my answer hilarious; apparently you aren’t supposed to plant tiny flower seeds six inches deep.

 

 
 
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What a cute but pointless feel good kumbaya circle jerk of you are so good, no you are, no you are. How about proving me wrong instead.  Jan says how wonderful the world when a women gets to chose and the man has to pay, this she claims in equality. Prove you want equality, here’s your opportunity.

When a man and women have consensual sex and it results in pregnancy agree that the man has the same rights as the women to decide if it is carried to term or terminated.

 
 
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GAD - 02 July 2019 06:47 PM

When a man and women have consensual sex and it results in pregnancy agree that the man has the same rights as the women to decide if it is carried to term or terminated.

Just as soon as the man in this scenario shoulders an equal amount of responsibility during the nine months of pregnancy, including the possibility of permanent health changes and death.

 
 
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Jefe - 03 July 2019 08:49 AM
GAD - 02 July 2019 06:47 PM

When a man and women have consensual sex and it results in pregnancy agree that the man has the same rights as the women to decide if it is carried to term or terminated.

Just as soon as the man in this scenario shoulders an equal amount of responsibility during the nine months of pregnancy, including the possibility of permanent health changes and death.

So again you have nothing and just provide sound bites.

 

 
 
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