Black and indigenous theology…

 
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12 August 2016 08:59
 

What would you make of attempts to view Islam not through the lens of the importers (pakistani, saudi etc), but the native or indigenous American and European populations? Just are there was black theology and indigenous theology, looking at Christianity through the lens of black needs, contexts and social condition etc….

examples fornm christian relations and lookabout

http://vst.edu/course/nmc-thx102-the-land-is-sacred-an-indigenous-theology-of-land

http://www.naiits.com/

http://www.ncca.org.au/indigenous

http://www.tandfonline.com/loi/yblt20?open=13&repitition=0#vol_13

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_theology

 
 
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14 August 2016 11:58
 

Can you summarize these links a bit, it might be TLDR at this point…

 
 
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15 August 2016 02:57
 

Some context. I was at a “hizb ut tahrir” (I htink) gathering once, height of the Iraq conflict, and they were advocating annexation of the West.

So, black theology and indigenous theology were largely American responses (iirc) to “white mans christianity” in that the established churches revolved around Europeans culture and needs. Indigenous converts established churches which saw the gospel through the lens of their expeiences and predicament.

For example how could the Native American “land is sacred” be translated into bibilal language. What would an American Indian “perspective” be on the sermon on the mount?

Etc etc…. Links there to give a general idea.


So, in a Western mosque you ll probably have an imam from Pakistan or whereever, probably with a load of political baggage. I am thinking of a European Islam which values diversity, academic freedom,  citizenship, respect for culture, and rejects terror, subversion, the “darr ul harb” conception, drug trading etc as legitimate or expedient forms of the faith.

So just as “jesus was a black” for black theologians, in that as oppressed he was deemed to be more from that ethnic group than the conquesting and slave trading exploiters,  so likewise Muhammed would be a European (or a Frenchmen, Englishman etc) for indigenous Islam. That would slighly upset those who think basically we’re all imperialist scum, or that theres “one true fiqh” for all places and times to be established in a blanket fashion. Which is not the point, by the way, to upset people.

A “Good Muslim” - who has the copyright on this label? Does Europe need reforming, or would a “European Muhammed” be ‘fighting the idols of igniorance’ which are degrading to his tribe and clan? For instance would he love science? Lets not forget the claims of"scientific miracles” of the quran depend on their being science, rather than a shadowy theocracy telling professors what to believe.

“By the Time! Man is surely in loss, except those who believed and did good works, and exhorted one another to Truth, and exhorted one another to patience.” - surah Asr, a nice one for the scientists.

I keep thinking of “historical political psychodynamics” - revenge and conflict infecting the religion. But for instance for the Europeans its possible that things like community, theology, sobriety, familty etc matter, rather than what happened in Pakistan so many years ago or where we happened to be born. Or, if we were born here, to take some pride in the land that raised us etc, and the cultural values that better our predicament. Like the search for scientific truth, or political tolerance etc. as read and valued through the lens of the quran etc.

[ Edited: 15 August 2016 03:27 by Hypersoup]