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Ola
 
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12 April 2017 21:42
 

What a load of manipulative, second-rate, claptrap.

 

 
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12 April 2017 21:54
 

And that’s just one page. Wait until we get to two hundred-sumpin.

 
 
Brother Mario
 
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12 April 2017 22:08
 

First, “claptrap” is one of my favorite video game characters. So don’t use it.

Second, why would I seek to manipulate a faceless woman on the Internet with lies about demons? It doesn’t make any sense.

Third, if a Catholic mystic is “second-rate” when it comes to knowing if spiritual battles exist, then a woman who for some reason uses an avatar that is not a picture of her must be what when it comes to knowing the truth about such things? First-rate? Yeah, that makes a lot of sense.

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Sorry, Ola, your delusions of you being worthy of someone’s manipulations are unfounded.

 
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12 April 2017 22:18
 

And Nhoj crawls out from under his rock.

Why don’t you tell me about how I’m not trioon, Nhoj?

Your theories are so well-founded and well-received.

At least then this thread will end real quickly like all your threads do.

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Are you confident that you should be adding your imprimatur to the incredulous skeptic on this my only thread?

Let it breathe, man.

We’ll get there.

 
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12 April 2017 22:25
 

Smooth.

 
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13 April 2017 03:42
 

Joe, I had a faint hope to persuade you to come down from your self-righteous mountain and join your fellow flawed humans ... oh well, it was worth a try.

Carry on ...

 
 
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13 April 2017 05:34
 

Jan, being a flawed human being is not the same thing as being a skeptical atheist who makes the claim that no other human being in the history of humanity has ever experienced God because God doesn’t exist.

You have your flaws mixed up, which means you have your perfections mixed up also.

A doorknob is perfect if it opens a door.

And a human being is perfect if he or she prioritizes reality in its proper order and then goes about the business of being a human being in that order.

God cannot be somewhat important, but must be all important or not important at all.

Let me tell you a secret hidden from the dum dums—God is all important.

And as all important, we human beings must put him first and then the rest will follow perfectly into place.

You didn’t read the letter from John Paul II did you? Not a priority, huh?

But you wanted to persuade me, a person who not only read the letter but has experienced every bit of it.

Read it. You will find yourself in it, for the pope writes about how modern thinkers have evolved into brainwashed know-nothings.

Now ...

When you just read that there is a possibility that you have been brainwashed simply by being born in this age of misplaced priorities, did it give you pause or are you pushing headlong into the belief that flawed human beings cannot open any doors that they cannot see or touch?

Anyway ...

You should have greater hopes than having me speak to you as a confused modern thinker content to list my flaws as an excuse as to why I never found God or the truth about who I truly am because I am a human being.

Jesus said:

“Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect.”

Go with that rather than wallowing in your flaws.

Start by taking a few hours and reading the letter slowly and carefully to put into your brain some of what was washed out.

[ Edited: 13 April 2017 13:55 by Brother Mario]
 
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13 April 2017 07:10
 

Or, as my dear old grandmother once stood on a pub table and said: f*ck the pope.

 
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13 April 2017 11:30
 

And, then what happened, Ola?

She got drunk, again, and f..ked some other drunk, again, who may or may have not been your drunk old grandfather?

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Here’s a thing:

The Polish pope who wrote the letter I mention was an amazing fellow—poet, athlete, philosopher—who came along at the perfect time and had the courage and will to travel around the world many times leaving in his wake a far safer and better world.

His influence on Mikhail Gorbachev, the Christian Russian president behind the collapse of a communistic Soviet Union, is seen in this quote: “We appreciate your mission on this high pulpit, we are convinced that it will leave a great mark on history.”

Gorbachev wanted to free the Soviet people, and instituted the policies of Perestroika and Glasnost. Why? Well, I’ll let him tell you: “Jesus was the first socialist, the first to seek a better life for mankind.”

But he was stopped by the atheists around him, and the Soviet people today are suffering because of it.

You can follow the line of atheists from Gennady Yanayev to Vladimir Kryuchtov to Vladmir Putin, who took over from the other Christian Russian President Boris Yeltsin, and see quite clearly how Gorbachev’s goodness was defeated by the faithless evils of greedy atheists.

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So no, Ola.

F..k the world leaders who are atheists.

Why don’t you move to the Russian Federation so that you can live in a country ruled by atheists who would never manipulate you into believing that a loving God exists and therefore you have inalienable rights as a child of God?

Yes. Do that, you amazing atheist you.

[ Edited: 13 April 2017 11:33 by Brother Mario]
 
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13 April 2017 14:49
 
Jan_CAN - 13 April 2017 03:42 AM

Joe, I had a faint hope to persuade you to come down from your self-righteous mountain and join your fellow flawed humans ... oh well, it was worth a try.

Carry on ...

Hope squashed.

 
 
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14 April 2017 05:26
 

“Hope” is the wrong word.

What becomes squashed here, the only place where someone actually knows the answer to What is truth?, is a puffed up skeptic’s head.

But I have “hope” that some of you will question what it is about this thread that keeps pulling you in.

For then you may come to the honest realization that there is a “spirit” working within you far more powerful than your working brain.

Now that’s a good and true “hope”.

 
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14 April 2017 06:38
 
Brother Mario - 14 April 2017 05:26 AM

“Hope” is the wrong word.

What becomes squashed here, the only place where someone actually knows the answer to What is truth?, is a puffed up skeptic’s head.

But I have “hope” that some of you will question what it is about this thread that keeps pulling you in.

For then you may come to the honest realization that there is a “spirit” working within you far more powerful than your working brain.

Now that’s a good and true “hope”.

I can’t speak for others, but what ‘pulls me in’ is not your religious commentary, but your winning personality. This is not sarcasm; others may think this strange, but I actually think you have a compelling personality.  Still not sure how put-on it is.  If only you would use your gifts for good (see 1 Peter 4:10).

Although my hope has gone from faint to infinitesimal, I thought you might consider letting up on the personal insults just a tad.  Not trying to dissuade you of your religious beliefs – just your behaviour toward others.  Common courtesy, i.e. consideration and respect for others and their feelings, should be expected from everyone.  Do you think you’re exempt from this?

Now, I challenge you (which I don’t expect you’ll accept) to compose one post that contains no personal insults.

 

 
 
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14 April 2017 07:56
 

Jan, I’m not religious. The reality of atheists refusing to stop labeling the living God a religious idea demands a counter reality of me refusing to stop labeling them dim-witted and agenda-driven know-nothings.

There can be no honest dialogue between such atheists and a person who knows and loves God through experience and intelligence, for it is the atheists in their utterly nonsensical belief in their superiority of critical thinking that are insulting.

No one here read the letter because no one here is a true skeptic, but a personality that dropped into atheism like a turd dropping into a toilet.

You don’t believe in God nor wish to speak about God? Fine. Many people go about their lives doing just that, and many are wonderful people, for it isn’t the living God they reject but the religious God. For God is spirit as much as he is truth. So such persons have one foot in the game.

As Paul put it: “We do not know how to pray, so our spirit prays for us.”

But here at this forum, where Sam Harris dropped the biggest turd, people gather to spread empty rhetoric that no living breathing human being should ever have to listen to.

So here I am ... for the children of such as these.

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And you come here for “spirit and truth”, not the Portugee behind the curtain.

 
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14 April 2017 09:39
 
Brother Mario - 14 April 2017 07:56 AM

Jan, I’m not religious. The reality of atheists refusing to stop labeling the living God a religious idea demands a counter reality of me refusing to stop labeling them dim-witted and agenda-driven know-nothings.

There can be no honest dialogue between such atheists and a person who knows and loves God through experience and intelligence, for it is the atheists in their utterly nonsensical belief in their superiority of critical thinking that are insulting.

No one here read the letter because no one here is a true skeptic, but a personality that dropped into atheism like a turd dropping into a toilet.

You don’t believe in God nor wish to speak about God? Fine. Many people go about their lives doing just that, and many are wonderful people, for it isn’t the living God they reject but the religious God. For God is spirit as much as he is truth. So such persons have one foot in the game.

As Paul put it: “We do not know how to pray, so our spirit prays for us.”

But here at this forum, where Sam Harris dropped the biggest turd, people gather to spread empty rhetoric that no living breathing human being should ever have to listen to.

So here I am ... for the children of such as these.

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And you come here for “spirit and truth”, not the Portugee behind the curtain.

Are we actually getting somewhere (and can it last)?  Your post generally insulted all atheists (which includes me), but did not contain a direct, personal insult, at least not one that I took personally.  Thank you for that.

I was raised in a loving Christian home, held these beliefs in my youth, and came to my current state of non-belief over time, and after much thought and reflection.  I was not brainwashed in any way, by anyone, to become an atheist/humanist.  As I’ve indicated before, I’m just not equipped to debate with you about God; you’d be better challenged by others.

(Maybe I’d like to see the Portugee behind the curtain.)

 

 
 
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14 April 2017 15:12
 

Jan, I’m not debating you at all, just telling you stuff that I know to be true.

The letter I told you to read would have enlightened you to much that you do not know from simply living in a loving Christian home.

Your contentment in atheism is based upon you leaving religion, not you leaving a relationship with God. So, your claim that “after much thought and reflection” you have arrived at atheism is simply not true.

There is “much” that you do not know. And after reading your posts it is obvious that there is much that you do not want to know.

But I am not simply talking to you about knowledge. I am talking to you about the reality you have as a human being and have chosen to ignore for the sake of some intellectual ideas bouncing around in your head.

And the people here will only bounce you around even more.

For example, on another thread the atheists are trying to show how the religion they are so against, because they are so smart, has been used to kill people by the thousands in holy wars.

Well, here are a couple of non-religious wars that kinda set the standard for killing:

The total number of military and civilian casualties in World War I was more than 38 million: there were over 17 million deaths and 20 million wounded, ranking it among the deadliest conflicts in human history. The total number of deaths includes about 11 million military personnel and about 7 million civilians.


The total number of military and civilian causualties in World War II was more than 60 million people, which was about 3% of the 1940 world population, and could be as high as 80 million people, with 25 million military personel and about 50 million civilians.

Religious wars don’t even come close to such horrible numbers, and actually displace far more people than they kill.

Them’s the facts.

Anyway ...

I’m sorry you couldn’t get through to me to question my love for the living God and becoming fully alive through him.

But since you didn’t read the letter, and never will, let’s call it even.

[ Edited: 14 April 2017 15:44 by Brother Mario]
 
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