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22 September 2017 10:57
 
uno - 22 September 2017 10:27 AM
GAD - 24 August 2017 08:34 AM
Shaikh Raisuddin - 24 August 2017 08:29 AM

You define what is atheism. Is it just not believing in God?

And please define what belief is?

Atheism is knowing that make-believe gods are not real.

 

How or when does belief turn into knowledge? 

(I believe the difference between belief and knowledge is essentially a practical matter. The difference between proving something beyond any doubt and beyond a reasonable doubt is my guide.)

Beyond a reasonable doubt is a good standard for calling something “knowledge”.  Not sure anything (or at least very much) can be proven beyond any doubt.  Belief falls lower on the proof scale - if you can prove something beyond a reasonable doubt there is not much need for faith.  But belief and faith do involve processes other than pure evidence-based logic; they involve subjective experience, emotion, and attitude.  Faith and knowledge are not graphed along the same axis.

 
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22 September 2017 12:11
 

To all wise here: ( who could not define what religion is in exact words)

another test is to define what memory is, what knowledge is? While on cutting open a brain we do not find memory and knowledge.

Please also differentiate between education and religion.

 
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22 September 2017 12:15
 
GAD - 21 September 2017 08:23 AM
Shaikh Raisuddin - 21 September 2017 08:06 AM

You could not understand is the proof that dictionary is misery of mankind.


How could we understand, your words have no meaning, they are not scientific truth, they are your religion, and like all religions yours is complete bullshit.

Why you resist to understand? Are you not brainwashed by your education?
Why you hate what you hate?

 
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22 September 2017 12:19
 
Jan_CAN - 21 September 2017 11:12 AM

Cambridge English Dictionary

Fanatic (Definition):  a person who is extremely interested in something, to a degree that some people find unreasonable; a person who has very extreme beliefs that may lead them to behave in unreasonable or violent ways.

Bullshit (Definition):  complete nonsense or something that is not true.

Dictionary (Definition):  a book that contains a list of words in alphabetical order and that explains their meanings.


Communication is good.
Words are necessary for human communication.
Common understanding and usage of words is necessary for communication.
Dictionaries contain words and meanings that aid in common usage.
Therefore, dictionaries are good.
End of story.


[Edit:  Sorry Nhoj ... wouldn’t have posted this if I’d seen your post first.]

Are you not aware of communication gap?

Why doctors advise for ECG why they do not diagnose from verbal or clinical expressions?

 

 
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22 September 2017 13:14
 
Nhoj Morley - 21 September 2017 11:09 AM
Shaikh Raisuddin - 21 September 2017 10:50 AM

Can you tell:
How we mean what we mean?
How we believe what we believe?
How we observe what we observe?
How we know what we know?
Why we do what we do?

Please choose any one of these questions and give your view about it. No one will engage what you say until we can get past how you say it. (look who’s talking) It is spooky and Halloween-like. “Dictionary is Misery” is the punchline, obviously. However, the set up is unclear.

The above questions are essential to fathom reality independent of social bias. You may recall why science or creativity is rebellious in nature to social education.

I will deal these questions at separate thread.

 
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22 September 2017 13:24
 

@Shaikh,

Go back to the drawing board and come back in another 30 years to tell us what you have. Maybe by then you’ll start making some sense.


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Shaikh Raisuddin - 22 September 2017 12:11 PM

To all wise here: ( who could not define what religion is in exact words)

another test is to define what memory is, what knowledge is? While on cutting open a brain we do not find memory and knowledge.

Please also differentiate between education and religion.

I gave an exact definition of religion:  “Religion is any activity performed in response to a person’s belief in a god (supreme being).”

Education is the process by which a person is taught about a particular subject.  It’s pretty easy to differentiate that from religion.  You don’t make any sense.

 
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22 September 2017 14:28
 
Shaikh Raisuddin - 22 September 2017 12:19 PM

Are you not aware of communication gap?

Why doctors advise for ECG why they do not diagnose from verbal or clinical expressions?

Yes, I am aware of a communication gap.  I do not understand what you are trying to say; I am not alone in this.  I suspect that English is not your first language, which could be a factor.  If you wish us to understand, please elaborate and explain your statements so that we know what you are thinking.

 
 
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22 September 2017 14:40
 
Jan_CAN - 22 September 2017 02:28 PM

  I do not understand what you are trying to say; I am not alone in this.

I would say that we are pretty much unanimous on this. The dictionary never looked so good.

 
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22 September 2017 14:43
 
Nhoj Morley - 21 September 2017 11:09 AM
Shaikh Raisuddin - 21 September 2017 10:50 AM

Can you tell:
How we mean what we mean?
How we believe what we believe?
How we observe what we observe?
How we know what we know?
Why we do what we do?

Please choose any one of these questions…

“Can you tell:
how we believe what we believe?
how we know what we know?”

Absolute knowledge of anything is beyond me.

I personally believe what I “know” is belief but practically speaking I’m OK with GAD’s defintion:

“Beyond a reasonable doubt is a good standard for calling something “knowledge”.  Not sure anything (or at least very much) can be proven beyond any doubt.  Belief falls lower on the proof scale - if you can prove something beyond a reasonable doubt there is not much need for faith.”

And yeah, while knowledge and belief share a somewhat indeterminate boundary there’s a substantial wall between them and faith.

 
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22 September 2017 14:55
 
EN - 22 September 2017 02:40 PM
Jan_CAN - 22 September 2017 02:28 PM

  I do not understand what you are trying to say; I am not alone in this.

I would say that we are pretty much unanimous on this. The dictionary never looked so good.

Yeah, he has unintentionally united us all in our appreciation of dictionaries.

 
 
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