Christianity and the Founding Fathers

 
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Quote from the book, ‘FANTASYLAND - How America Went Haywire (a 500-year history) by Kurt Anderson:  “When somebody asked Alexander Hamilton why the Framers hadn’t mentioned God in the Constitution, [Hamilton’s] answer was deadpan hilarious: “We forgot.”

Anderson also tells us that, [John] “Adams wrote to a Dutch friend that the Bible consists of millions of fables, tales, legends,” and that Christianity had “prostituted” all the arts “to the sordid and detestable purposes of superstition and fraud.” 

He goes on:  “George Washington ‘is an unbeliever,’ Jefferson once reckoned, and only “has divines constantly about him because he thinks it right to keep up appearances.”

https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/209776/fantasyland-by-kurt-andersen/9781400067213/

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23 March 2018 11:51
 

Awesome.

 
 
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unsmoked - 23 March 2018 10:59 AM

He goes on:  “George Washington ‘is an unbeliever,’ Jefferson once reckoned, and only “has divines constantly about him because he thinks it right to keep up appearances.

From The Prince, by Niccolo Machiavelli, Chapter 18:

For this reason a prince ought to take care that he never lets
anything slip from his lips that is not replete with the above-named
five qualities [repeated below], that he may appear to him who sees and hears him
altogether merciful, faithful, humane, upright, and religious. There
is nothing more necessary to appear to have than this last quality,
inasmuch as men judge generally more by the eye than by the hand,
because it belongs to everybody to see you, to few to come in touch
with you. Every one sees what you appear to be, few really know what
you are, and those few dare not oppose themselves to the opinion of
the many, who have the majesty of the state to defend them; and in the
actions of all men, and especially of princes, which it is not prudent
to challenge, one judges by the result.

 
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Skipshot - 23 March 2018 04:41 PM
unsmoked - 23 March 2018 10:59 AM

He goes on:  “George Washington ‘is an unbeliever,’ Jefferson once reckoned, and only “has divines constantly about him because he thinks it right to keep up appearances.

From The Prince, by Niccolo Machiavelli, Chapter 18:

For this reason a prince ought to take care that he never lets
anything slip from his lips that is not replete with the above-named
five qualities [repeated below], that he may appear to him who sees and hears him
altogether merciful, faithful, humane, upright, and religious. There
is nothing more necessary to appear to have than this last quality,
inasmuch as men judge generally more by the eye than by the hand,
because it belongs to everybody to see you, to few to come in touch
with you. Every one sees what you appear to be, few really know what
you are, and those few dare not oppose themselves to the opinion of
the many, who have the majesty of the state to defend them; and in the
actions of all men, and especially of princes, which it is not prudent
to challenge, one judges by the result.

quote:  “Thus none of the Founders called himself an atheist.  Yet by the standards of devout American Christians, then and certainly now, most were blasphemers.  In other words, they were men of the Enlightenment, good-humored seculars who mainly chose reason and science to try to understand the nature of existence, the purposes of life, the shape of truth.  Jefferson said [Francis] Bacon, Locke, and Newton were “the three greatest men that have ever lived, without exception.”  Franklin, close friends with the Enlightenment philosopher Immanuel Kant, and Adams was friends with the Enlightenment philosopher David Hume, whose 1748 essay “Of Miracles” was meant to be “an everlasting check to all kinds of superstitious delusion.”  America’s political founders had far more in common with their European peers than with the superstar theologians barnstorming America to encourage superstitious delusion.”  - Kurt Anderson - from his book -  https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/209776/fantasyland-by-kurt-andersen/9781400067213/