Do we owe Muslims another apology?

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07 May 2018 13:14

Do we owe Muslims another apology?

This link says yes.

This link says no.

To those who think we should try to separate the good Muslims from the bad Muslims.

I do not think it is to the non-Muslim world to apologise to Muslims for the criticism we do of their un-civilized ideology.

Should we stop judging and criticizing those institutions of religion that are leading us away from a more civilized state?

1 Thessalonians 5:21 Test all things; hold fast what is good.

Have you tested the ideology of Islam? Is it good to you?

Proverbs 3:12 For whom the Lord loveth he correcteth; even as a father the son in whom he delighteth.

Is correcting and criticizing Islam the loving or the hateful thing to do?


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09 May 2018 23:05

I just started working at a restaurant with a Muslim manager, assistant manager, and a Muslim owner.

Granted they mostly speak to each other in Arabic, but I know they are aware of the Christian influence in the US, and that me and another coworker were raised Christian.  I have never heard or detected hate or disrespect for Christian traditions at any level from any of them.  In fact, I have even heard the manager give another employee a hard time (half-jokingly) for listening to vulgar rap music - asking him “You went to Easter Sunday service with your parents yeah?  Why you listen to that Satanic music?!”

It’s been a while since I looked at the PEW polls for American Muslims but I seem to remember there being a significant difference in anti-Western ideals between American Muslims and British Muslims.  The assistant manager and manager were from Iraq and Syria respectively, and are both highly educated.

Judging these men as individuals is what I have done from the second I have known them.  As individuals, they are respectable, and tolerant - albeit a bit more pious than most Christians I’ve known.  They come from places wherein their religion has a much greater hold over social life than Christianity does over life in the US (at least in my area, California).

I actually find it interesting being around them and their customs, the religious phrases they use, the halaal preparations, etc.  I respect their conviction and dedication to what they believe in.  That does not mean I want more Islamic immigration to the US.  I think Douglas Murray was wise in saying that the first 2,000 immigrants from a foreign country bring a lot of positive benefits in terms of diversity, but there is a point of diminishing returns whereby cultural/ideological strife tends to be inevitable.  I feel no need to apologize for Trump or having voted for him, though if I were ever asked about my political views, I would approach that situation strategically (as I would in any situation with an employer, perhaps particularly this one).

I wouldn’t see any need to criticize or “correct” these two men even if they were not my bosses.

[ Edited: 09 May 2018 23:11 by Quadrewple]