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24 August 2018 15:18
 

This is the fourth day in a row that cold air and smoke from your wild fires has been blowing down to California and wrecking our summer.  Cut it out!

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The Entire Population of the San Francisco Bay Area

 
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24 August 2018 16:05
 

To The Entire Population of the San Francisco Bay Area

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24 August 2018 16:06
 

But you might want to keep in mind that ...

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Jan_CAN - 24 August 2018 04:06 PM

But you might want to keep in mind that ...

Yes, because we will be dead from smoke inhalation waiting in line for our free healthcare.

 
 
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26 August 2018 15:25
 

Seriously though, all of these forest fires - California, British Columbia, Ontario, Europe ... - is quite awful.

 
 
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Jan_CAN - 26 August 2018 03:25 PM

Seriously though, all of these forest fires - California, British Columbia, Ontario, Europe ... - is quite awful.

It is awful.  Mother Nature is cleaning house, whether we like it or not.

 
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Skipshot - 26 August 2018 04:58 PM
Jan_CAN - 26 August 2018 03:25 PM

Seriously though, all of these forest fires - California, British Columbia, Ontario, Europe ... - is quite awful.

It is awful.  Mother Nature is cleaning house, whether we like it or not.

Although perhaps she is doing only what she can under the circumstances that were created by her wayward children.

 
 
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27 August 2018 07:06
 
Jan_CAN - 27 August 2018 06:58 AM
Skipshot - 26 August 2018 04:58 PM
Jan_CAN - 26 August 2018 03:25 PM

Seriously though, all of these forest fires - California, British Columbia, Ontario, Europe ... - is quite awful.

It is awful.  Mother Nature is cleaning house, whether we like it or not.

Although perhaps she is doing only what she can under the circumstances that were created by her wayward children.

The simple fact of the matter is that there are far too many of us homo sapiens.  We are, in many ways, like a virus or bacterial strain that is threatening to wipe out all life.  If nature can’t handle us, she’ll get rid of us and come up with a new plan.

7,645,778,273 - that’s the estimate of how many of us there are - and it’s higher now than when I copied it. We shit, pee, belch, pollute, destroy, multiply and threaten.  From nature’s perspective, we are a cancer.

Have a nice day.

 
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27 August 2018 08:23
 
EN - 27 August 2018 07:06 AM
Jan_CAN - 27 August 2018 06:58 AM
Skipshot - 26 August 2018 04:58 PM
Jan_CAN - 26 August 2018 03:25 PM

Seriously though, all of these forest fires - California, British Columbia, Ontario, Europe ... - is quite awful.

It is awful.  Mother Nature is cleaning house, whether we like it or not.

Although perhaps she is doing only what she can under the circumstances that were created by her wayward children.

The simple fact of the matter is that there are far too many of us homo sapiens.  We are, in many ways, like a virus or bacterial strain that is threatening to wipe out all life.  If nature can’t handle us, she’ll get rid of us and come up with a new plan.

7,645,778,273 - that’s the estimate of how many of us there are - and it’s higher now than when I copied it. We shit, pee, belch, pollute, destroy, multiply and threaten.  From nature’s perspective, we are a cancer.

Have a nice day.

How true – there are far too many homo sapiens for the planet to support and remain ‘healthy’.  And the population numbers that the planet can tolerate is dependent on the behaviour and habits of this ‘cancerous’ species.

So, the choice is to ‘eat, drink, and be merry, for tomorrow we die’ OR make some serious changes for the sake of the future of our, and other, species.  Sadly, I think it’s obvious which way we’re headed.

Yeah, have a nice day.

 

 
 
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27 August 2018 08:32
 
EN - 27 August 2018 07:06 AM
Jan_CAN - 27 August 2018 06:58 AM
Skipshot - 26 August 2018 04:58 PM
Jan_CAN - 26 August 2018 03:25 PM

Seriously though, all of these forest fires - California, British Columbia, Ontario, Europe ... - is quite awful.

It is awful.  Mother Nature is cleaning house, whether we like it or not.

Although perhaps she is doing only what she can under the circumstances that were created by her wayward children.

The simple fact of the matter is that there are far too many of us homo sapiens.  We are, in many ways, like a virus or bacterial strain that is threatening to wipe out all life.  If nature can’t handle us, she’ll get rid of us and come up with a new plan.

7,645,778,273 - that’s the estimate of how many of us there are - and it’s higher now than when I copied it. We shit, pee, belch, pollute, destroy, multiply and threaten.  From nature’s perspective, we are a cancer.

Have a nice day.

Don’t be so nihilistic. The Earth isn’t static and nature has wiped out the earth a billions time more then everything humans have ever done. Can we do better, absolutely, but no matter how good we are the Earth will never be static and nature will keep remaking it over and over again.

 
 
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GAD - 27 August 2018 08:32 AM

Don’t be so nihilistic. The Earth isn’t static and nature has wiped out the earth a billions time more then everything humans have ever done. Can we do better, absolutely, but no matter how good we are the Earth will never be static and nature will keep remaking it over and over again.

Sure, but when we push it along and make it wipe things out sooner that it normally would have, then we deserve our fate.

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27 August 2018 11:14
 

Sheesh. . . this thread went dark quickly.

When I wrote about Mother Nature cleaning house I meant the forest, but I get the broader meaning, too.  In the West, fire is a natural part of the ecosystem and the plants have evolved to take advantage of periodic fires such that many require fire to reproduce and for general health.  Usually the natural fires were low level flames which burned a few feet above the ground, with occasional flare-ups.  When we (people) moved here we brought our idea that fire is bad and put out fires.  By putting out a wild fire we only put the inevitable off to another day, and when the time comes there is more fuel for the fire than is naturally intended, including dead branches and leaves, a proliferation of undergrowth, and a greater density of plants.  Due to us putting out fires, the fuel load has built up to unnaturally high levels so when a fire does come (and it will), the conflagration is equally unnatural and instead of burning low levels of debris, brush, and saplings, the fire extends into the canopy and crown of the mature trees and kills them, too.

These wildfires typically begin on public lands which prohibit logging but also do not thin the forest, and consequently Mother Nature thins the forest on her terms.  Unfortunately for us, we like living close to nature and do not like our homes to burn down from time to time, so the struggle between us protecting our homes and Mother Nature needing to clean results in conditions neither party wants.  There isn’t much we can do about the conflict except agree that Mother Nature will eventually win.  Yes, the current fires burning are bad, but we are to blame for them more than Mother Nature.

A California scientist, (I forget who) did research into wildfires and found that early pioneers to the state (before the Gold Rush), described the western slope of the Sierra Nevada Mountains to have large, mature trees about 30 feet apart with little underbrush.  The forest was described as like walking through a Greek temple with the giant columns.  They had no difficulty rolling large wagons down from the summit through the forest.  Drive Highway 80 today along the old wagon route and the forest is impassably dense.  Even wild animals don’t like the density.

Insurance companies calculate the odds of wild fires and increase their premiums on those whose homes are closer to the forest.  For example, my home is not in the forested hills of Oakland and my fire insurance rate is $1,100/year.  A friend whose house is in the forest on the edge of Oakland pays $4,500/year.

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27 August 2018 18:07
 
EN - 27 August 2018 10:45 AM
GAD - 27 August 2018 08:32 AM

Don’t be so nihilistic. The Earth isn’t static and nature has wiped out the earth a billions time more then everything humans have ever done. Can we do better, absolutely, but no matter how good we are the Earth will never be static and nature will keep remaking it over and over again.

Sure, but when we push it along and make it wipe things out sooner that it normally would have, then we deserve our fate.

As do all creatures who overpopulate, consume all their resources and then die off. The only difference with us is our gift to see our own deaths in the future.

 
 
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30 August 2018 07:44
 

I found this fact from the Washington Post:

If you stacked up 7 billion sheets of copy paper, the stack would be 504 miles high — about the distance to the international space station and back again.