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14 July 2021 18:59
 

It’s always more fun when you’re around.  And while yer here…maybe you can figure this one out.

Britney Spears shaved her head and damaged a photographer’s car with an umbrella and lost control of all future medical and financial decisions.  Alec Baldwin expressed the same frustration with harassing paparazzi by punching some of them in the face and got a slap on the wrist.  This seems like a pretty blatant double standard.

Texas wants to offer ten thousand dollar bounties on the heads of women seeking abortions after six weeks.

Is this American society or The Handmaid’s Tale?

 
 
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14 July 2021 20:06
 
LadyJane - 14 July 2021 06:59 PM

It’s always more fun when you’re around.  And while yer here…maybe you can figure this one out.

Britney Spears shaved her head and damaged a photographer’s car with an umbrella and lost control of all future medical and financial decisions.  Alec Baldwin expressed the same frustration with harassing paparazzi by punching some of them in the face and got a slap on the wrist.  This seems like a pretty blatant double standard.

Texas wants to offer ten thousand dollar bounties on the heads of women seeking abortions after six weeks.

Is this American society or The Handmaid’s Tale?

Figuring out the bizarro can be challenging.  I’ve only a sketchy knowledge of these events, but it certainly seemed strange and unwarranted that anyone would be given long-term power of attorney (conservatorship) in such a case.  If say during a crisis or breakdown it were necessary, it should have been reviewed and altered in short course without the necessity of such a formal and public trial, seems to me.  The age-old convention of treating unconventional women as unstable and in need of supervision and control?  Which of course includes control of finances – no potential conflict of interest there, eh?  And control over her body, i.e. birth control, is downright creepy.

Texas has clearly gone insane.  I hear a lot on the news (and here) rightfully blaming Republicans for what’s been happening, but where is everyone else?  Where is the widespread demonstration of outrage?  Talk, talk, talk, and not enough action, I say.  What is incomprehensible at this time in other countries, has become just another controversy to complain about but not actually do anything about.

I’m sure it’s no accident that The Handmaid’s Tale was set in the U.S. – the building blocks are there:  fundamentalist religion, misogyny, capital punishment, weak on human rights, militaristic ...

 

 
 
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14 July 2021 20:25
 
LadyJane - 14 July 2021 07:40 AM

It’s the deadpan thing.  The livepan thing is lost on me.  Comedians who laugh too hard at their own jokes.  Like Kevin Hart.  Hugely successful, I know, but as appealing as a culturally insensitive garden gnome.  I’m pretty sure nonverbal is a fan. 

And I’m not saying nonverbal is old er nuthin’...but his porn handle is Louie Body Dementia.

I remember when Kevin Hart roasted someone really well. I’d not heard of Kevin until you mentioned something about him to me. Do you remember who was being roasted? Hart did impress the hell out of me, but I haven’t followed him since. My Robin Williams disease prevents me from doing much!

 
 
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14 July 2021 20:31
 

If my granddaughter is raped, and I drive her to New Mexico to get an abortion, my neighbor can sue me for violating the new law. Brilliant.

 
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14 July 2021 21:02
 
nonverbal - 14 July 2021 08:25 PM
LadyJane - 14 July 2021 07:40 AM

It’s the deadpan thing.  The livepan thing is lost on me.  Comedians who laugh too hard at their own jokes.  Like Kevin Hart.  Hugely successful, I know, but as appealing as a culturally insensitive garden gnome.  I’m pretty sure nonverbal is a fan. 

And I’m not saying nonverbal is old er nuthin’...but his porn handle is Louie Body Dementia.

I remember when Kevin Hart roasted someone really well. I’d not heard of Kevin until you mentioned something about him to me. Do you remember who was being roasted? Hart did impress the hell out of me, but I haven’t followed him since. My Robin Williams disease prevents me from doing much!

It was the Justin Bieber Roast and Natasha Leggero had the Kevin Hart joke of the night.

“Kevin’s actually gonna be on the next season of Game of Thrones. He’s playing Peter Dinklage’s shadow.”

 
 
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Jan_CAN - 14 July 2021 08:06 PM
LadyJane - 14 July 2021 06:59 PM

It’s always more fun when you’re around.  And while yer here…maybe you can figure this one out.

Britney Spears shaved her head and damaged a photographer’s car with an umbrella and lost control of all future medical and financial decisions.  Alec Baldwin expressed the same frustration with harassing paparazzi by punching some of them in the face and got a slap on the wrist.  This seems like a pretty blatant double standard.

Texas wants to offer ten thousand dollar bounties on the heads of women seeking abortions after six weeks.

Is this American society or The Handmaid’s Tale?

Figuring out the bizarro can be challenging.  I’ve only a sketchy knowledge of these events, but it certainly seemed strange and unwarranted that anyone would be given long-term power of attorney (conservatorship) in such a case.  If say during a crisis or breakdown it were necessary, it should have been reviewed and altered in short course without the necessity of such a formal and public trial, seems to me.  The age-old convention of treating unconventional women as unstable and in need of supervision and control?  Which of course includes control of finances – no potential conflict of interest there, eh?  And control over her body, i.e. birth control, is downright creepy.

Texas has clearly gone insane.  I hear a lot on the news (and here) rightfully blaming Republicans for what’s been happening, but where is everyone else?  Where is the widespread demonstration of outrage?  Talk, talk, talk, and not enough action, I say.  What is incomprehensible at this time in other countries, has become just another controversy to complain about but not actually do anything about.

I’m sure it’s no accident that The Handmaid’s Tale was set in the U.S. – the building blocks are there:  fundamentalist religion, misogyny, capital punishment, weak on human rights, militaristic ...

Women in America have had the right to vote for a hundred years and they still haven’t ratified the Equal Rights Amendment.  One of the wealthiest nations in the industrialized world hasn’t managed what even some dictatorships have.

Workers of the world can’t unite without unions and Women of the world can’t unite without power.  And that is why power is being clung to at any cost.  The unspoken rule is that you don’t have to separate the riches from the people…you only have to separate the people from themselves.

Folks are pissing around hiding under their fancy desks talking about phantom enemies while an actual one is digging in.  We often hear the phrase “never again” and yet the same things happen over and over.  The confusion muffles the sound of neonotzis gaining ground.

According to the Department of Housing and Urban Development it would cost $20 billion dollars to end homelessness in the United States. 

Last summer Jeff Bezos made 13 billion dollars in one day.

I’m glad he’s leaving the planet.

 
 
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17 July 2021 09:07
 
EN - 14 July 2021 08:31 PM

If my granddaughter is raped, and I drive her to New Mexico to get an abortion, my neighbor can sue me for violating the new law. Brilliant.

My flip answer to this is to suggest that single women leave states where their reproductive rights are being trampled.
Not only would it be effective, it would also leave those male voters who support these measures ‘high and dry’.

But it’s not practical.  And not so simple.

 
 
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17 July 2021 20:28
 
Jefe - 17 July 2021 09:07 AM
EN - 14 July 2021 08:31 PM

If my granddaughter is raped, and I drive her to New Mexico to get an abortion, my neighbor can sue me for violating the new law. Brilliant.

My flip answer to this is to suggest that single women leave states where their reproductive rights are being trampled.
Not only would it be effective, it would also leave those male voters who support these measures ‘high and dry’.

But it’s not practical.  And not so simple.

Yes, it would be like leaving a province because there were residential schools there that killed/buried First Nation children. It is not easy leaving one’s home and family for political reasons. I love Texas, even though its current government and a majority of its population are, at times, disgusting to me. I’m sure you love Alberta, and I can certainly understand that, having been there. I guess my choice is to stay and fight.

 
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18 July 2021 05:32
 

The example was leaving a place to avoid a situation where rights are being trampled legally in the present.  Not where they were violated illegally in the past.

 
 
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18 July 2021 18:36
 

Sure thing, nonverbal.  I’ll be yer huckleberry.

You are one of a few veteran members at this forum and one of my favourites since the beginning.  Mainly due to your sense of humour but also because I only tend to trust people who are at least a little bit insane.  It makes them intelligent enough to be worthwhile.

There was a time that veteran members, like yerself, would nudge patrons that seemed to need some guidance.  And it made the entire forum better.  SkepticX was an expert at this.  A simple comment to present an idea a poster wasn’t looking at.  He would gently put it in front of them, without any emotional attachment, in a very non confrontational way.  It didn’t always work on account’a some folks bristle at the notion of using their noggin but it made some of us better posters.  Less intellectually lazy anyway.  I know I sat up a little straighter.

When that wasn’t happening as much…it was noticeable. 

The bar fell.  Then political discussions became blacker and whiter.  It widened the divide and the bar fell again.  Fear turned to anger and the anger turned to rage, the bar fell again and it soiled every page.  Then the Covid hit.  And sucked the colour out of everything.  Things got ugly…and downright paranoid.  Where no amount of nudging would do.  But we all have to take responsibility for our actions.  It’s not like anyone forced GAD to drink ten cups of coffee then chase them all with Red Bull and told him his neighbours were snipers.   

Now the way I see it…it’s up to veteran members, like yerself, to raise the bar to a respectable level once again.  The burden has been on a few posters alone for far too long.  They have to spend all their time untangling nonsense instead of having the conversations they came here to have.  And still often watch the place turn into a thoroughfare for slithering bigotry.  Familiarity is no excuse.  And ignoring it no longer flies.  Keeping things honest requires a wee nudge where it’s needed. 

Sharpen yer elbows, sir.  Or else we’ll be stuck playing T-ball our whole fucking lives.

 
 
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19 July 2021 08:18
 

Thank you, LJ. I hope you’ll continue appreciating my sense of humor with the following:

Please instruct me. What would have been a more suitable analogy than Christianity? I’ve never been good at coming up with examples, so I usually end up just going with what I at least minimally understand. After all, I know what it’s like to be introduced by nuns to Jesus, shortly before my 6th birthday. Christianity is in my head. So I need you to help me come up with a more suitable analogy for me to replace the one I came up with. I’ll then edit my post.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMV1bwXyi54

 

 
 
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19 July 2021 10:50
 

There’s no need to edit.  I don’t have a hankering to rework your analogy.  I was merely pointing at the difference.  One is about the actual existence of racism and one is about a make believe invisible guy in the sky.  That was the hole I was poking.

I worry that a comparison like yours on a thread like that may only serve to propagate the incendiary agenda desired by its author. 

One thing I will say about analogies.  Not everyone is good at them.  But those who are good at them are exceedingly intelligent.  It means listening to what another person says and conjuring an image that aligns with it for the sole purpose of understanding.  It’s a very thoughtful way to think.  And it tells you something about how a person is maximizing how their brain operates.  Drawing from stored memory and being able to access it in order to figure things out. 

The thrust of my comments recoil at the superficial and frivolous aspects of internet posting.  The one that allows the loudest voices to drag us all into their myopic perspectives.  Where ‘others’ are dehumanized and the thinking is shoddy.  Nary an effort to put pieces together.  So things can never get sorted.  I can’t convince some folks to get out of their own way.  But I can ask them kindly to please get out of mine.  I can’t help it if they weren’t held enough as a child.

Christianity prescribes a way to live that connects a God with all the things people already love about themselves.  Where you can occupy the moral high ground and every trespasses is forgiven.  A collective relinquishing of the power to question and you too can feel like a God.  (For a small fee in cash money on a gold plate.)  The unadulterated book of good.  Sounds like a pretty good disguise for fascism.  Which is what it often looks like in reality.

Imagining what we observe and pondering for awhile is another way to connect us to the outside world.  In shifting social circles.

 
 
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LadyJane - 18 July 2021 05:32 AM

The example was leaving a place to avoid a situation where rights are being trampled legally in the present.  Not where they were violated illegally in the past.

Yeah, it was apples and oranges. But either way, it’s hard to leave home.

 
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EN - 19 July 2021 04:17 PM
LadyJane - 18 July 2021 05:32 AM

The example was leaving a place to avoid a situation where rights are being trampled legally in the present.  Not where they were violated illegally in the past.

Yeah, it was apples and oranges. But either way, it’s hard to leave home.

I caught your drift.  Home is…well…home.

I may have to leave Alberta, though, if our current dunder-head of a premiere gets re-elected.  He’s doing his level best to tear apart many of the things I love about my province.  And he’s crumbling the job market and economy for his personal & long debunked ideological/economic reasons.

Willing to spend $1.6B on an oil pipeline gamble with long odds, but tearing up our medical professional system during a pandemic, for example.  And waging un-quiet war on professions that are majority female populated as another example.

I’m about 90% sure there are Koch-dollars in his campaign basket too.

It sucks.

 
 
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Jefe - 19 July 2021 04:46 PM
EN - 19 July 2021 04:17 PM
LadyJane - 18 July 2021 05:32 AM

The example was leaving a place to avoid a situation where rights are being trampled legally in the present.  Not where they were violated illegally in the past.

Yeah, it was apples and oranges. But either way, it’s hard to leave home.

I caught your drift.  Home is…well…home.

I may have to leave Alberta, though, if our current dunder-head of a premiere gets re-elected.  He’s doing his level best to tear apart many of the things I love about my province.  And he’s crumbling the job market and economy for his personal & long debunked ideological/economic reasons.

Willing to spend $1.6B on an oil pipeline gamble with long odds, but tearing up our medical professional system during a pandemic, for example.  And waging un-quiet war on professions that are majority female populated as another example.

I’m about 90% sure there are Koch-dollars in his campaign basket too.

It sucks.

Alberta is pretty conservative compared to the rest of Canada, right?  Does Premier in a Canadian province have the same sort of power that a Governor in a State has? I assume Jason Kenney could not go against Canadian federal law, as is supposed to be the case here.

 

 
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