Trump and the AR-15

 
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25 April 2019 11:58
 

More than 5 million Americans own an AR-15.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AR-15_style_rifle

Since most AR-15 enthusiasts are passionate about keeping their guns,Trump knows that they will vote for him.  The NRA doesn’t want Democrats doing what Jacinda Ardern, Prime Minister of New Zealand did - outlaw their favorite weapon.

Suppose Trump rented Michigan Stadium for his 2020 election rallies and invited AR-15 owners to come and show their support.  As part of the extravaganza would Trump & Co. arrange a march, 10,000 strong, around the field holding up NRA banners and flags - saluting and chanting as they passed his podium?  Couldn’t happen here?  The New Zealand law could never be ratified here no matter how horrific the next massacre?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michigan_Stadium

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When Sandy Hook failed to engender change, the US accepted gun culture as more important than childrens’ lives.

 
 
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Jefe - 25 April 2019 12:07 PM

When Sandy Hook failed to engender change, the US accepted gun culture as more important than childrens’ lives.

Gun culture loves mass murder because it justifies their fear that the liberals are coming for their favorite toys.  Funny, though. . . how they get defensive after a mass murder of white people, but claim gun laws don’t work when our browner brothers shoot each other.  How come they are not holding gun rallies in ghettos and barrios to promote their claim that more guns make communities safer?

 
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At a recent NRA leadership rally, Trump said he ‘would never let (them) down”.
Sounds like he’s in their pocket.  ‘Course there’s lobby money there, so it shouldn’t be surprising.

 
 
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When Sandy Hook failed to engender change, the US accepted gun culture as more important than childrens’ lives.

Gun culture loves mass murder because it justifies their fear that the liberals are coming for their favorite toys.  Funny, though. . . how they get defensive after a mass murder of white people, but claim gun laws don’t work when our browner brothers shoot each other.  How come they are not holding gun rallies in ghettos and barrios to promote their claim that more guns make communities safer?

We’re told that psychopaths make up 1% of the population.  If there are 5 million AR-15 owners in the U.S., it follows that about 50,000 of them are psychopaths. 

 

 
 
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unsmoked - 26 April 2019 01:28 PM
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When Sandy Hook failed to engender change, the US accepted gun culture as more important than childrens’ lives.

Gun culture loves mass murder because it justifies their fear that the liberals are coming for their favorite toys.  Funny, though. . . how they get defensive after a mass murder of white people, but claim gun laws don’t work when our browner brothers shoot each other.  How come they are not holding gun rallies in ghettos and barrios to promote their claim that more guns make communities safer?

We’re told that psychopaths make up 1% of the population.  If there are 5 million AR-15 owners in the U.S., it follows that about 50,000 of them are psychopaths.

Can we please stop blaming the mentally ill for violent tendencies?  There is very little correlation between mental illness and violence towards others.

 
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Skipshot - 26 April 2019 04:11 PM
unsmoked - 26 April 2019 01:28 PM
Skipshot - 25 April 2019 08:31 PM
Jefe - 25 April 2019 12:07 PM

When Sandy Hook failed to engender change, the US accepted gun culture as more important than childrens’ lives.

Gun culture loves mass murder because it justifies their fear that the liberals are coming for their favorite toys.  Funny, though. . . how they get defensive after a mass murder of white people, but claim gun laws don’t work when our browner brothers shoot each other.  How come they are not holding gun rallies in ghettos and barrios to promote their claim that more guns make communities safer?

We’re told that psychopaths make up 1% of the population.  If there are 5 million AR-15 owners in the U.S., it follows that about 50,000 of them are psychopaths.

Can we please stop blaming the mentally ill for violent tendencies?  There is very little correlation between mental illness and violence towards others.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/difference-between-psychopath-sociopath-210715270.html

Last 2 paragraphs in this article:

“Unfortunately for the average person, “antisocial personality disorder” doesn’t roll off the tongue the same way “sociopath” or “psychopath” does. So if you’re searching for a label to describe that nutjob in accounting, you could go with Psychology Today’s definitions: Psychopaths have a cool, calm, manipulative style and no empathy. Sociopaths are more impulsive and prone to rage-fueled outbursts, though they’re able to form attachments to others. If a psychopath commits a crime, she’s likely to carefully plan it to minimize the chance of being caught, explains psychcentral.com; when a sociopath breaks the law, it’ll be on impulse, with little planning and no regard for the consequences.

Understanding the differences between these two terms, however, are probably the least of your worries if you meet either a sociopath or a psychopath, according to Forrest Talley, PhD. Instead of defining the person, Dr. Talley recommends remembering that both are manipulative, lack remorse, disregard social norms, and hide things well. Make sure you look out for these 13 other signs you’re dealing with a psychopath, too . . . “

https://www.denverpost.com/2009/03/10/book-columbine-shooters-mentally-ill-not-bullied/

Two paragraphs from this article:

“In “Why Kids Kill: Inside the Minds of School Shooters,” released by Palgrave Macmillan just before the 10th anniversary of the slayings in Littleton, Colo., Langman writes that most of the shooters were severely mentally ill, their defective personalities and disordered minds causing existential rage that found its expression in mass murder.

Harris, 18, was a psychopath—rage-filled, egotistical, lacking conscience, writes Langman. Klebold, 17, was psychotic, suffering from paranoia, delusions and disorganized thinking. Together, they fatally shot 12 students and a teacher and wounded 23 before committing suicide at Columbine on April 20, 1999.”

Another important reference:

https://www.salon.com/2019/03/04/harvard-psychiatrist-donald-trumps-actions-are-signs-of-a-severe-continuous-mental-disturbance_partner/

“To understand his actions, it is essential to keep in mind that sociopaths have only one goal: to enhance themselves, and that in pursuing their self-interest, they lack both normal human empathy for others and a normal human conscience. Cheating, conning, lying, stealing, threatening are all done with no remorse.

When stressed with facts that would require them to admit failure, or even that others know more or are more capable than them, sociopaths lose track of reality, becoming delusional with insistence on the truth of what they psychologically need to maintain their superior view of themselves. Indeed, nobody matters except to the degree they can serve the sociopath’s personal needs.

That’s why loyalty is demanded, but as soon as an associate disagrees, the sociopath turns on them with a fury; there was never a real relationship to begin with.”

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27 April 2019 13:13
 

Psychopaths are more likely to be businessmen and politicians than mass murderers.  Admittedly, giving them guns does not help.

 
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27 April 2019 13:27
 

The only way to change a gun culture is the advent of an anti-gun culture.  Perhaps when the generation of kids who were raised in an environment in which they were unsafe at school are all grown up and in power, things will finally begin to change.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Never_Again_MSD

 
 
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The only way to change a gun culture is the advent of an anti-gun culture.  Perhaps when the generation of kids who were raised in an environment in which they were unsafe at school are all grown up and in power, things will finally begin to change.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Never_Again_MSD

Lotsa luck with that.  Two major impediments to ridding America of guns are 1. the 2nd Amendment 2. two recent Supreme Court rulings interpreting, for the first time, the 2nd Amendment as an individual right to bear arms.  The only hope now is a repeal of the 2nd Amendment, but the gun culture god demands human sacrifice, and there’s is no limit, in age or number, to the sacrifices.  That, and they will kill to defend their gun god.

Until repeal, school children will continue to have Active Shooter Drills and America will proudly wear the badge of being among the world’s most dangerous nations when it comes to gun violence.

Add another attack with an assault rifle to the never-ending list:  https://www.cbsnews.com/news/poway-synagogue-shooting-san-diego-sheriffs-detain-man-today-2019-04-27-live-updates/

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Jan_CAN - 27 April 2019 01:27 PM

The only way to change a gun culture is the advent of an anti-gun culture.  Perhaps when the generation of kids who were raised in an environment in which they were unsafe at school are all grown up and in power, things will finally begin to change.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Never_Again_MSD

Lotsa luck with that.  Two major impediments to ridding America of guns are 1. the 2nd Amendment 2. two recent Supreme Court rulings interpreting, for the first time, the 2nd Amendment as an individual right to bear arms.  The only hope now is a repeal of the 2nd Amendment, but the gun culture god demands human sacrifice, and there’s is no limit, in age or number, to the sacrifices.  That, and they will kill to defend their gun god.

Until repeal, school children will continue to have Active Shooter Drills and America will proudly wear the badge of being among the world’s most dangerous nations when it comes to gun violence.

Add another attack with an assault rifle to the never-ending list:  https://www.cbsnews.com/news/poway-synagogue-shooting-san-diego-sheriffs-detain-man-today-2019-04-27-live-updates/

Another tragic shooting that could have been prevented with a limitation on assault weapons and a minimum age of 21.  Regulations which I understand could be passed without repealing the 2nd Amendment.

Is there not a growing difference in attitudes about guns among say under-30’s?  I don’t know the answer to this question, but have been encouraged about reports of student anti-gun activism. 

 

 
 
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Jan_CAN - 27 April 2019 07:30 PM
Skipshot - 27 April 2019 06:10 PM
Jan_CAN - 27 April 2019 01:27 PM

The only way to change a gun culture is the advent of an anti-gun culture.  Perhaps when the generation of kids who were raised in an environment in which they were unsafe at school are all grown up and in power, things will finally begin to change.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Never_Again_MSD

Lotsa luck with that.  Two major impediments to ridding America of guns are 1. the 2nd Amendment 2. two recent Supreme Court rulings interpreting, for the first time, the 2nd Amendment as an individual right to bear arms.  The only hope now is a repeal of the 2nd Amendment, but the gun culture god demands human sacrifice, and there’s is no limit, in age or number, to the sacrifices.  That, and they will kill to defend their gun god.

Until repeal, school children will continue to have Active Shooter Drills and America will proudly wear the badge of being among the world’s most dangerous nations when it comes to gun violence.

Add another attack with an assault rifle to the never-ending list:  https://www.cbsnews.com/news/poway-synagogue-shooting-san-diego-sheriffs-detain-man-today-2019-04-27-live-updates/

Another tragic shooting that could have been prevented with a limitation on assault weapons and a minimum age of 21.  Regulations which I understand could be passed without repealing the 2nd Amendment.

Is there not a growing difference in attitudes about guns among say under-30’s?  I don’t know the answer to this question, but have been encouraged about reports of student anti-gun activism.

It is difficult to put restrictions on a right without attracting a legal challenge, which is why repealing the right to have guns is the only way.  I do not advocate a ban on guns, but putting restrictions and legal liabilities on them, much like owning a car.