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TRUMP DUMP 2 - Road to the 2020 Election

 
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19 June 2019 13:01
 

How will disenchanted Trump supporters vote in 2020?  https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/article/tonight-on-frontline-documenting-hate-new-american-nazis/

In 2020, if polls show that Trump is widely recognized as a white supremacist and the general public knows that he is supported by neo Nazis and lone-wolf domestic terrorists, that their membership is growing since Trump was elected, will they (Republicans) chose someone else to run against the Democrats?

Premiering at a special time (9 p.m. EST/8 p.m. CST – check local PBS listings), it’s an investigation of a violent neo-Nazi group called Atomwaffen Division that has actively recruited inside the U.S. military, and that calls for racially-motivated “lone wolf” attacks like the shooting last month at the Tree of Life synagogue in Pittsburgh. In fact, our reporting in the past few days has shown that authorities are looking at the online relationship between the accused synagogue shooter and two neo-Nazi brothers with a connection to Atomwaffen.

I watched this episode last night.  At the conclusion, one of the U.S. Nazi ‘generals’ said that Timothy McVeigh was one of their heros, and that the election of Trump was a boon for white supremacy and attacks against the Jews . . . implying that with Trump in office we can expect to see more such lone-wolf attacks against ‘the enemies of the people’.  (Trump’s enemies).

In 2016, one day after the November election, David Remnick, editor of the New Yorker, wrote ‘An American Tragedy’ :  https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/an-american-tragedy-2

“The election of Donald Trump to the Presidency is nothing less than a tragedy for the American republic, a tragedy for the Constitution, and a triumph for the forces, at home and abroad, of nativism, authoritarianism, misogyny, and racism. Trump’s shocking victory, his ascension to the Presidency, is a sickening event in the history of the United States and liberal democracy. On January 20, 2017, we will bid farewell to the first African-American President—a man of integrity, dignity, and generous spirit—and witness the inauguration of a con who did little to spurn endorsement by forces of xenophobia and white supremacy. It is impossible to react to this moment with anything less than revulsion and profound anxiety.” -  David Remnick

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19 June 2019 17:08
 

Polls show Trump losing to many of the Democratic candidates in Florida, where he just launched his 2020 re-election campaign.  Yet, he still hauls in millions from the hypnotized.  It will be interesting. The Dems should win, if they don’t self-destruct, which they are wont to do.

 
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20 June 2019 06:20
 

I’m worried about the integrity of the election. Between foreign meddling, the republican efforts at voter suppression, and a con man alternative facts President who has no scruples when it comes to empowering himself (he admires other dictators and has even shown a fondness for the idea of being “President for life”), it will be an uphill battle for the Dens. And to top it all off, Trump has his own personal major TV “news” outlet (in Fox News) to do his bidding. I don’t put anything past this emboldened President, or his sycophant minions. Pretty scary when you add it all up. 

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MrRon - 20 June 2019 06:20 AM

I’m worried about the integrity of the election. Between foreign meddling, the republican efforts at voter suppression, and a con man alternative facts President who has no scruples when it comes to empowering himself (he admires other dictators and has even shown a fondness for the idea of being “President for life”), it will be an uphill battle for the Dens. And to top it all off, Trump has his own personal major TV “news” outlet (in Fox News) to do his bidding. I don’t put anything past this emboldened President, or his sycophant minions. Pretty scary when you add it all up. 

Ron

TheFederalist.com noted that Trump “won an election while refusing to release his tax returns and after being exposed by the Access Hollywood tape as being a self-confessed assaulter of women.”  What could they possibly find that will change voter’s minds now?

Would a major economic slump caused by his tariff wars change his supporters’ minds?

In this article, Trump and the Telltale Cough - notice his remarks about wanting to release his tax returns.  When someone coughed during his ‘smokescreen’ reply to George Stephanopoulos’ question, notice that he didn’t ask the cougher if he was okay.  “You dare to cough when the King is speaking?”  https://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/donald-trump-and-the-telltale-cough

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2019/01/trump-continues-to-attack-rigged-elections/580030/

On January 23, 2017, his first full day of work as president, Donald Trump hosted leaders of Congress at the White House. The expectation was that he would use the occasion, as previous presidents had, to lay out his policy agenda and jump-start his administration. But instead of focusing on his legislative priorities, the president launched into a diatribe about the race he’d just won, claiming without a shred of evidence that 3 million to 5 million illegal votes had been cast.

The lawmakers, not yet accustomed to the peculiar illogic of this White House, were still capable of being shocked. Maybe they shouldn’t have been surprised. During the 2016 campaign, perhaps assuming he would lose, Trump had insisted that the coming vote was “rigged.” (In a presidential debate, he refused to say he’d accept the results of the election if he lost to Hillary Clinton.) Winning didn’t dampen his conspiracy theorizing; he just transformed into the ultimate sore winner. Weeks after he won the election, Trump tweeted that the media were ignoring serious voter fraud in Virginia, New Hampshire, and California. (The media were indeed “ignoring” his claims—because there was no evidence for them.)

(read more in article)  Things to come in 2020?

 

 
 
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21 June 2019 12:09
 

https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-columnists/what-are-the-chances-of-trump-being-reelected?

quote from this article:

The good news for Trump is that he retains a solid base of support, and the demographic to which he has the strongest appeal—white Americans who don’t have a college degree—still represents a very big chunk of the electorate. Plus, the unemployment rate is just 3.5 per cent, and most Americans are optimistic about the economy. The bad news for the Trump campaign is that other demographic groups seem to have turned even more heavily against him, and a strong economy has failed to lift his approval ratings. Moreover, recent polls suggest that he is in trouble in a number of battleground states, including the three that were key to his victory last time: Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin.

There are millions of ‘white Americans who don’t have a college degree’ who did not vote for Trump.  Can Trump find ways to get a million new supporters from these Independent and Democratic sticklers?  Trump is cunning, and I see him angling in that pool. 

Half the American public think there are UFO’s, and there are millions of conspiracy theorists who think the government (the Swamp - the enemy of the people) has been keeping secrets from them.  What better way to get them to support Trump than for the military to start being more open about reporting mysterious sightings?  “Trump must be behind this new policy!  He’s one of us!  He supports our theories and investigations, though of course he can’t come right out and say so!  He probably knows those alien abduction stories are true!  He probably knows the crop circles were made by aliens!  Let’s vote for him!”  https://www.nbcnews.com/mach/science/u-s-navy-revising-rules-encourage-pilots-report-unusual-sightings-ncna999801

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unsmoked - 21 June 2019 12:09 PM

Half the American public think there are UFO’s, and there are millions of conspiracy theorists who think the government (the Swamp - the enemy of the people) has been keeping secrets from them.  What better way to get them to support Trump than for the military to start being more open about reporting mysterious sightings?  “Trump must be behind this new policy!  He’s one of us!  He supports our theories and investigations, though of course he can’t come right out and say so!  He probably knows those alien abduction stories are true!  He probably knows the crop circles were made by aliens!  Let’s vote for him!”

UFO stands for “Uninformed Fox Oaf.”


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MrRon - 20 June 2019 06:20 AM

I’m worried about the integrity of the election. Between foreign meddling, the republican efforts at voter suppression, and a con man alternative facts President who has no scruples when it comes to empowering himself (he admires other dictators and has even shown a fondness for the idea of being “President for life”), it will be an uphill battle for the Dens. And to top it all off, Trump has his own personal major TV “news” outlet (in Fox News) to do his bidding. I don’t put anything past this emboldened President, or his sycophant minions. Pretty scary when you add it all up. 

Ron

I worry about this more than I worry about who wins the election. I worry that Trump has a set a precedent for media fueled populism and egregious manipulation of the system that will inspire a crop of bad candidates at all levels.

 
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MrRon - 20 June 2019 06:20 AM

I’m worried about the integrity of the election. Between foreign meddling, the republican efforts at voter suppression, and a con man alternative facts President who has no scruples when it comes to empowering himself (he admires other dictators and has even shown a fondness for the idea of being “President for life”), it will be an uphill battle for the Dens. And to top it all off, Trump has his own personal major TV “news” outlet (in Fox News) to do his bidding. I don’t put anything past this emboldened President, or his sycophant minions. Pretty scary when you add it all up. 

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I worry about this more than I worry about who wins the election. I worry that Trump has a set a precedent for media fueled populism and egregious manipulation of the system that will inspire a crop of bad candidates at all levels.

Me, too.  Trump complained about rigged voting even after he won, which means it will be another attention-getter for him in 2020 regardless of the outcome, and Fox News will be his cheerleader.  Destabilization of the republic is more entertaining.

 
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23 June 2019 09:31
 

Trump warns he’s “not prepared to lose” re-election:

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/trump-warns-hes-not-prepared-to-lose-reelection-151450006.html

President Trump declared that he is not “prepared to lose” reelection in 2020, saying he does not believe the official results of the popular vote count from his first election.

When asked if he was prepared to lose in an interview with told NBC’s “Meet the Press” that aired Sunday, Trump said, “No. Probably not.”

“It would be much better if I said, ‘Yeah.’ It would be much easier for me to say, ‘Oh yes,’” Trump offered, but said, “No, I’m probably not too prepared to lose. I don’t like losing. I haven’t lost very much in my life.”

“You didn’t like the fact that you lost the popular vote?” asked “Meet the Press” host Chuck Todd. “That bothered you, didn’t it.”

“I’ll say something that, again, is controversial,” Trump said. “There were a lot of votes that I don’t believe.”

“There was much illegal voting,” he added, vaguely referring to California and a settlement by Judicial Watch requiring Los Angeles County to remove as many as 1.5 million inactive registrations as a part of a “massive voter roll clean-up.”

There is no evidence that ballots were cast in the names of any of the inactive voters.

This wasn’t the first time Trump — who in 2016 lost the popular vote to Hillary Clinton by nearly 3 million votes and carried the Electoral College with 304 votes — has claimed that he won the popular vote.

A few weeks after the 2016 election, Trump tweeted, “In addition to winning the Electoral College in a landslide, I won the popular vote if you deduct the millions of people who voted illegally.”

“I like popular vote,” said Trump, who is one of five presidents to win a presidential election while losing the popular vote. “I think I’d do better with the popular vote. But I didn’t campaign for the popular vote. You didn’t see me campaigning in California or New York.”

Trump added: “If it was up to the popular vote, I would have done, I think, even better. I won 306 to 223, which is a lot in the Electoral College, but it’s like you’re training for the 100-yard dash versus the mile.” (In the past, he compared winning the Electoral College to a marathon.)

Trump recently came out in favor of the Electoral College, which he called “a disaster for democracy” in 2012. In April, he changed his mind, saying it’s “far better for the U.S.A.”


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MrRon - 20 June 2019 06:20 AM

I’m worried about the integrity of the election. Between foreign meddling, the republican efforts at voter suppression, and a con man alternative facts President who has no scruples when it comes to empowering himself (he admires other dictators and has even shown a fondness for the idea of being “President for life”), it will be an uphill battle for the Dens. And to top it all off, Trump has his own personal major TV “news” outlet (in Fox News) to do his bidding. I don’t put anything past this emboldened President, or his sycophant minions. Pretty scary when you add it all up. 

Ron

I worry about this more than I worry about who wins the election. I worry that Trump has a set a precedent for media fueled populism and egregious manipulation of the system that will inspire a crop of bad candidates at all levels.

Me, too.  Trump complained about rigged voting even after he won, which means it will be another attention-getter for him in 2020 regardless of the outcome, and Fox News will be his cheerleader.  Destabilization of the republic is more entertaining.

Yesterday on the news we could watch Trump exchanging pleasantries with the Saudi Crown Prince; and joking with Putin about election interference..  If Trump wins in 2020, will American journalists start to fall while his 63 million supporters wink at each other?

https://www.npr.org/2018/04/21/604497554/why-do-russian-journalists-keep-falling

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/06/29/trump-mbs-khashoggi-g20-1390412

 
 
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“Election” implies the appointment of leaders using a ballot, cast by the electorate’s constituents.  ‘Trump’ was not elected thusly (unless MINUS 2.8 million votes = a majority in the bizarre-o nation U.S.).

‘Trump’ was installed by the abrogation of the American vox populi, by the Neo-Con Zionist democracy subversion cabal, affectionately dubbed an “electoral college”.  As were all presidents bar one (wartime president non-elect, Bush ‘04) since Weekend at Reagan’s.

American people have about as much control over who is elected to their stations of control, as North Koreans do.  Two parties, taking turns buying votes from their respective polities, and collectively indebting the nation to the point where war is the only economic leaver left to pull.  Two sides of the same, bloodstain shekel — nothing more than that — performing a four-year passade for the pews of its portly, pea-brained proletariat.

Lamentably, Americans cannot read nor extricate themselves from in front of their idiot boxes — for they could then perhaps realise the predicament of their own serfdom, and do something about it.  Alas, the nation is so tribally riven that, even with the unfettered information of the Internet, most just post doctored selfies and watch inane cat videos or incest porn… as is the culture’s wont.
>see: Kant — critical competitive (CI)

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PBS special - Travel Host Rick Steves - “Fascism in Europe”  (repeat broadcast in my area last night)

https://www.pbs.org/video/the-story-of-fascism-in-europe-pthanf/

It can’t happen in U.S.?  Entire population of Germany, men, women and children, when Hitler came to power was 67 million.  63 million adults voted for Trump.

In your opinion, what would be the first sign that it is happening here?  When a major newspaper office is bombed?  EPA handed over to Koch Brothers?

In this program, notice the postures of Mussolini; the fervent adulation of his and Hitler’s supporters . . . the tricks to oil the war machine.

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Trump now says that he is “the chosen one”.  It might have been in jest, but I suspect that is what he believes, and his base would certainly endorse that concept.  While I realize that biblical concepts are not highly valued around here, the more he talks the more he sounds like some scriptural descriptions of the Antichrist - big mouth, claiming to be God (metaphorically, so far), attacking Jews here recently, changing laws to fit his will, etc.  I suppose every modern president has had someone calling him the Antichrist, but Trump is the first to sound like one. Now we just need someone to figure out how his name adds up to 666 with some creative math.  burt??

 
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Trump now says that he is “the chosen one”.  It might have been in jest, but I suspect that is what he believes, and his base would certainly endorse that concept.  While I realize that biblical concepts are not highly valued around here, the more he talks the more he sounds like some scriptural descriptions of the Antichrist - big mouth, claiming to be God (metaphorically, so far), attacking Jews here recently, changing laws to fit his will, etc.  I suppose every modern president has had someone calling him the Antichrist, but Trump is the first to sound like one. Now we just need someone to figure out how his name adds up to 666 with some creative math.  burt??

Will the chosen one try to cancel the 2020 election if all polls show he is going to lose?  Like Maduro in Venezuela does he have the support of the military if he tweets that the enemies of the people are trying to take over the country? 

Think of the rotten despots the U.S. has helped keep in power in other countries.  Will Putin send Russian operatives here to make sure Trump stays in the White House?  Is Putin enjoying the spectacle of the chosen one making a fool of the U.S. on the international stage?

 
 
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22 August 2019 13:03
 

There are a lot of ways in which Trump can manipulate the 2020 Elections in ways that would take too long to address in the Courts - assuming that his Supreme Court won’t just rubber-stamp whatever he wants to do.

 
 
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