How would Americans react if Iran sent this kind of firepower into the Gulf of Mexico?

 
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23 June 2019 10:27
 

How would Americans react if Iran sent this kind of firepower into the Gulf of Mexico?  https://www.businessinsider.com/us-military-iran-firepower-show-of-force-info-pictures-details-2019-5

How would we react if a sophisticated Iranian drone was 30,000 feet offshore above Louisiana’s oil refineries?  How would we react if they were preventing U.S. trade with other countries?

https://www.newsweek.com/do-us-sanctions-hurt-iran-everyday-people-suffer-most-1201954

conclusion of this article:

“What remains mostly neglected though is the effects sanctions have on the efforts of Iranian youth such as students or more broadly the middle classes to interact with the outside world,” Behravesh told Newsweek, citing specifically the new obstacles for Iranian students trying to order books or study abroad.

“This is why sanctions alone as an instrument of foreign policy are usually counterproductive: in fact, they weaken the very forces they are meant to empower,” he added. “Sociopolitically, sanctions for many Iranians are a harbinger of betrayal: already abandoned by their own government and now further betrayed and crushed by the outside world.”

Next:  An exchange of cyber attacks?  https://www.vox.com/2019/6/23/18714327/iran-us-donald-trump-cyberattack-drone-strike

quote:

“There’s no question that there’s been an increase in Iranian cyber activity,” said Christopher Krebs, director of DHS’s Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency. “Iranian actors and their proxies are not just your garden variety run-of-the-mill data thieves. These are the guys that come in and they burn the house down.”

Gary Brown, the first senior legal counsel for US Cyber Command and a professor on cyber law at the National Defense University, told Yahoo Iran has “really cranked up its capability” in the digital space, following attacks on an uranium enrichment plant that were revealed in 2010 to be caused by a computer worm developed by the US and Israel.”  [stuxnet worm]

[ Edited: 23 June 2019 10:50 by unsmoked]
 
 
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Our foreign policies are really a mixed bag. Often we’re total fargin iceholes, sometimes we’re good guys. It’s hard to speculate on what the last hundred years in the ME would have looked like without interventions - starting with Britian’s completely ham-handed breaking up of the Ottoman empire.

That said, good arguments could be made that the folks who live in what’s now “Iran” would most likely have had devastating wars with the folks who live in what’s now SA.

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A bit of a tangent perhaps, what would the US do if Mexico was attacking us the way Hamas and the PA attack Israel?

 
 
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icehorse - 24 June 2019 08:55 AM

Our foreign policies are really a mixed bag. Often we’re total fargin iceholes, sometimes we’re good guys. It’s hard to speculate on what the last hundred years in the ME would have looked like without interventions - starting with Britian’s completely ham-handed breaking up of the Ottoman empire.

That said, good arguments could be made that the folks who live in what’s now “Iran” would most likely have had devastating wars with the folks who live in what’s now SA.

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A bit of a tangent perhaps, what would the US do if Mexico was attacking us the way Hamas and the PA attack Israel?

Unlike other parts of the world, (irony) the peoples of the Middle East have been at each other’s throats since God created them.  See the Bible - https://bibleatlas.org/midian.htm.  See Moses’ War Against the Midianites in Numbers 31:1-18 I’m not sure if Midian is in Jordan or Arabia - the slaughter and war crimes stagger the imagination.

Several years ago PBS aired travel guide Rick Steves in Iran.  He found the general population, people on the street, friendly.  They liked Americans.  For the most part, Iranians ignored the anti-American billboards and posters posted by the government.  It seems our foreign policy should be to encourage that friendship.  You’d think our State Department would encourage Americans to go there as tourists . . . encourage Iranian students to study in the U.S.  Encourage trade and cultural exchange. 

Trump is doing the opposite - pulling out of the nuke deal we had with them.  https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/obama-others-warned-trump-pulling-out-iran-nuke-deal-could-n1020461

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/06/23/trump-obliteration-iran-nuclear-weapons-pursuit-1376744

“Obliteration like you’ve never seen before.”  Trump (yesterday)  The art of the deal?

https://www.ricksteves.com/watch-read-listen/video/tv-show/tv-specials/iran/iran-pledge-special

 

 

[ Edited: 24 June 2019 10:26 by unsmoked]