A Chat About Marx

 
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13 September 2019 05:53
 
 
 
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13 September 2019 09:42
 

Interesting discussion.

It’s too bad we weren’t better able to learn from history and integrate the best goals and philosophies with what will work today.  And often it’s about the words and associations with little understanding of what they mean. 

Aspects of socialism may not be so scary in some societies and for the young, but perhaps reframing it as “Humanism” wouldn’t be such a bad idea.  And it doesn’t have to make capitalists into the big-bad-guy but only regulate and control in regard to excessive political power and fair contribution.

 
 
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13 September 2019 10:56
 

All western nations have a mix of socialism and capitalism. Neither is evil per se.  it’s a matter of getting the right mix between what we do as a nation and what we do individually..  it’s unfortunate that either set of ideas has to be demonized.

 
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13 September 2019 12:49
 
Jan_CAN - 13 September 2019 09:42 AM

Interesting discussion.

It’s too bad we weren’t better able to learn from history and integrate the best goals and philosophies with what will work today.  And often it’s about the words and associations with little understanding of what they mean. 

Aspects of socialism may not be so scary in some societies and for the young, but perhaps reframing it as “Humanism” wouldn’t be such a bad idea.  And it doesn’t have to make capitalists into the big-bad-guy but only regulate and control in regard to excessive political power and fair contribution.

What I found remarkable was the way they were able to maintain decorum even when they disagreed.  I long for discussions like this one.  I kept waiting for fireworks that never came.  And it never devolved into the sort of madness we’ve unfortunately become accustomed.  It dove past the superficial and conclusory statements that bring topics like these to a halt.  I think distancing ourselves from personal feelings and monitoring the attachments we have to our own opinions make discussing these worthwhile topics possible.  We get to travel a bit further down the road before being cut off.

 
 
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13 September 2019 13:18
 
LadyJane - 13 September 2019 12:49 PM
Jan_CAN - 13 September 2019 09:42 AM

Interesting discussion.

It’s too bad we weren’t better able to learn from history and integrate the best goals and philosophies with what will work today.  And often it’s about the words and associations with little understanding of what they mean. 

Aspects of socialism may not be so scary in some societies and for the young, but perhaps reframing it as “Humanism” wouldn’t be such a bad idea.  And it doesn’t have to make capitalists into the big-bad-guy but only regulate and control in regard to excessive political power and fair contribution.

What I found remarkable was the way they were able to maintain decorum even when they disagreed.  I long for discussions like this one.  I kept waiting for fireworks that never came.  And it never devolved into the sort of madness we’ve unfortunately become accustomed.  It dove past the superficial and conclusory statements that bring topics like these to a halt.  I think distancing ourselves from personal feelings and monitoring the attachments we have to our own opinions make discussing these worthwhile topics possible.  We get to travel a bit further down the road before being cut off.

Yes, it was a pleasure to listen to for several reasons, allowing the listener to relax and take it in.