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Trump Revokes California’s Ability to Set Pollution Rules

 
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22 September 2019 05:57
 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MULaZdj2uGs

Unbelievable! (although that’s a term that has gotten so much use during Trump’s presidency that it has lost it’s impact)

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22 September 2019 07:18
 

Google typhus outbreak California,  homelessness, rat infestation, defecation maps, you might come to a view that California needs to get her priorities in order and help with Federal intervention before its puts public heath care in danger for all of the state and rest of the Country. We have complete breakdown of the basic needs of civilization in Los Angeles right now. Airborne diseases, tuberculous is exploding, rodent fleas. What do you think should be done Doctor?

You don’t need experts to imagine that bubonic plague is likely, it’s already here, it will get onto the rat fleas. And then now finally we have this oral-fecal route contamination which is typhoid fever. Three cases. One confirmed, probably three. This is unbelievable!..  See we do agree.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRAAreGc2j8

California State leaders response is to ban plastic straws at restaurants.

https://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-lopez-skid-row-trash-homeless-merchants-20190525-story.html

 
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22 September 2019 08:36
 

Take a look at this kid (w/ White Privilege) who helped clean up 19 tons of trash in Baltimore, now in Los Angeles, cleaned up 50 tons of trash so far.. 

He asks “Why is an outsider from Northern Virginia here & not California elected leadership?

Do you have an answer Doctor? Take a look at the actual trash clean up this kid has done in photos before and after while the Democrats busy trashing Trump (trigger warning: The Kid is Trump Supporter)

https://twitter.com/ScottPresler

 
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22 September 2019 09:42
 

It’s just another attention-grabbing diversion.  Next week he’ll think of something else and Celal will chase after that one, too.

 
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22 September 2019 12:31
 
Skipshot - 22 September 2019 09:42 AM

It’s just another attention-grabbing diversion.  Next week he’ll think of something else and Celal will chase after that one, too.

Interestingly, I just read a post by some woman on Facebook, a Trump supporter to the hilt, that was almost word for word what Celal posted. Perhaps a script is being circulated.

 
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22 September 2019 13:26
 

Our friend Celal may find this incomprehensible, but the citizens of Los Angeles county actually passed legislation to increase our taxes to help with the homeless crisis.

Imagine that.

Both Proposition HH and Measure H passed a couple of years ago. However, with an estimated 60,000 homeless people in this county, the task of dealing with this problem is overwhelming.

As governor Gavin Newsom told the Trump administration, California would welcome help from the federal government. But, as anyone who has been paying attention to the behavior of Trump knows, the odds of him doing anything constructive in this state are about zero. He hates California, and California hates Trump.

Windbag Trump will use the pathetic homeless as a prop and then conveniently forget about the problem next week when he creates another distracting, self-inflicted catastrophe that will feed the 24-hour news cycle.

So it goes.

 
 
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Celal - 22 September 2019 07:18 AM

Google typhus outbreak California,  homelessness, rat infestation, defecation maps, you might come to a view that California needs to get her priorities in order and help with Federal intervention before its puts public heath care in danger for all of the state and rest of the Country. We have complete breakdown of the basic needs of civilization in Los Angeles right now. Airborne diseases, tuberculous is exploding, rodent fleas. What do you think should be done Doctor?

You don’t need experts to imagine that bubonic plague is likely, it’s already here, it will get onto the rat fleas. And then now finally we have this oral-fecal route contamination which is typhoid fever. Three cases. One confirmed, probably three. This is unbelievable!..  See we do agree.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRAAreGc2j8

California State leaders response is to ban plastic straws at restaurants.

https://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-lopez-skid-row-trash-homeless-merchants-20190525-story.html

What does any of this have to do with Trump thwarting California’s desire to improve the quality of their air? Why wouldn’t he at least applaud their efforts to take responsibility and clean up their air? After all, shouldn’t vehicle emissions be considered part of the “public health care” equation that you mentioned? How is the air that you breathe NOT a priority (especially since you’re apparently concerned about “airborne diseases”)? 

And besides, I thought republicans were all about state’s rights (and personal responsibility), no? 

Ron
PS - and no, Los Angeles is NOT in a “complete breakdown of the basic needs of civilization.”
PPS - And shouldn’t Trump be more concerned about the 94 million people in the country that are currently out of the workforce?????

[ Edited: 23 September 2019 03:29 by MrRon]
 
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Celal - 22 September 2019 08:36 AM

Take a look at this kid (w/ White Privilege) who helped clean up 19 tons of trash in Baltimore, now in Los Angeles, cleaned up 50 tons of trash so far.. 

He asks “Why is an outsider from Northern Virginia here & not California elected leadership?

Do you have an answer Doctor? Take a look at the actual trash clean up this kid has done in photos before and after while the Democrats busy trashing Trump (trigger warning: The Kid is Trump Supporter)

https://twitter.com/ScottPresler

Good for the kid, although I’d say his efforts are misguided. He would do better to get rid of the trash in the White House. That way, the entire country benefits instead of just a couple cities.

Ron

 
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23 September 2019 02:34
 

Who came up with giving California the right to regulate their own car emissions?

Noted liberal Ronald Reagan.

 
 
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Cheshire Cat - 22 September 2019 01:26 PM

Our friend Celal may find this incomprehensible, but the citizens of Los Angeles county actually passed legislation to increase our taxes to help with the homeless crisis.

So did the citizens of San Francisco, and I’m guessing it’s probably the same for the citizens of Portland and Seattle. Is it any coincidence that these cities have the worst “homeless” problems? No, because they use the money to make it easier for people to be junkies. So now they got more junkies. Hardly incomprehensible once you understand that spending money to make it easier for people to be junkies is the cause, and more junkies the effect.

The homeless industrial complex is a huge scam masquerading as “compassion”—the perfect scam for well-meaning, gullible liberals who can’t resist any opportunity to throw other people’s money at every problem.

 
 
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Antisocialdarwinist - 23 September 2019 06:21 PM
Cheshire Cat - 22 September 2019 01:26 PM

Our friend Celal may find this incomprehensible, but the citizens of Los Angeles county actually passed legislation to increase our taxes to help with the homeless crisis.

So did the citizens of San Francisco, and I’m guessing it’s probably the same for the citizens of Portland and Seattle. Is it any coincidence that these cities have the worst “homeless” problems? No, because they use the money to make it easier for people to be junkies. So now they got more junkies. Hardly incomprehensible once you understand that spending money to make it easier for people to be junkies is the cause, and more junkies the effect.

The homeless industrial complex is a huge scam masquerading as “compassion”—the perfect scam for well-meaning, gullible liberals who can’t resist any opportunity to throw other people’s money at every problem.

And your solution to the problem is. . . ?

 
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Skipshot - 23 September 2019 06:59 PM
Antisocialdarwinist - 23 September 2019 06:21 PM
Cheshire Cat - 22 September 2019 01:26 PM

Our friend Celal may find this incomprehensible, but the citizens of Los Angeles county actually passed legislation to increase our taxes to help with the homeless crisis.

So did the citizens of San Francisco, and I’m guessing it’s probably the same for the citizens of Portland and Seattle. Is it any coincidence that these cities have the worst “homeless” problems? No, because they use the money to make it easier for people to be junkies. So now they got more junkies. Hardly incomprehensible once you understand that spending money to make it easier for people to be junkies is the cause, and more junkies the effect.

The homeless industrial complex is a huge scam masquerading as “compassion”—the perfect scam for well-meaning, gullible liberals who can’t resist any opportunity to throw other people’s money at every problem.

And your solution to the problem is. . . ?

Something like they describe at the end of this documentary, maybe? I don’t know, but the current approach is obviously not working. I suspect that the root of the problem is to see it only as a “homeless problem,” when in reality it’s probably more of a junkie and lunatic problem.

 
 
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Antisocialdarwinist - 23 September 2019 09:58 PM
Skipshot - 23 September 2019 06:59 PM
Antisocialdarwinist - 23 September 2019 06:21 PM
Cheshire Cat - 22 September 2019 01:26 PM

Our friend Celal may find this incomprehensible, but the citizens of Los Angeles county actually passed legislation to increase our taxes to help with the homeless crisis.

So did the citizens of San Francisco, and I’m guessing it’s probably the same for the citizens of Portland and Seattle. Is it any coincidence that these cities have the worst “homeless” problems? No, because they use the money to make it easier for people to be junkies. So now they got more junkies. Hardly incomprehensible once you understand that spending money to make it easier for people to be junkies is the cause, and more junkies the effect.

The homeless industrial complex is a huge scam masquerading as “compassion”—the perfect scam for well-meaning, gullible liberals who can’t resist any opportunity to throw other people’s money at every problem.

And your solution to the problem is. . . ?

Something like they describe at the end of this documentary, maybe? I don’t know, but the current approach is obviously not working. I suspect that the root of the problem is to see it only as a “homeless problem,” when in reality it’s probably more of a junkie and lunatic problem.

BAM!

 
 
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Antisocialdarwinist - 23 September 2019 09:58 PM
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Antisocialdarwinist - 23 September 2019 06:21 PM
Cheshire Cat - 22 September 2019 01:26 PM

Our friend Celal may find this incomprehensible, but the citizens of Los Angeles county actually passed legislation to increase our taxes to help with the homeless crisis.

So did the citizens of San Francisco, and I’m guessing it’s probably the same for the citizens of Portland and Seattle. Is it any coincidence that these cities have the worst “homeless” problems? No, because they use the money to make it easier for people to be junkies. So now they got more junkies. Hardly incomprehensible once you understand that spending money to make it easier for people to be junkies is the cause, and more junkies the effect.

The homeless industrial complex is a huge scam masquerading as “compassion”—the perfect scam for well-meaning, gullible liberals who can’t resist any opportunity to throw other people’s money at every problem.

And your solution to the problem is. . . ?

Something like they describe at the end of this documentary, maybe? I don’t know, but the current approach is obviously not working. I suspect that the root of the problem is to see it only as a “homeless problem,” when in reality it’s probably more of a junkie and lunatic problem.

It is an addiction and mental illness problem, and always has been.  The documentary was 95% bellyaching, and 5% solution to half the problem, which is to put addicts in jail then give them medical treatment.  The interviewed addicts have spent years in prison getting treatment, so is that your solution?  Use prisons as medical treatment?  If so, then why not say that instead of making me watch 95% bullshit for me to insinuate your solution to half the problem?  You are halfway to solving the problem, so what is your solution to the mentally ill homeless?

By the way, the homeless are not exclusively generated locally in the cities, many come from your community to the cities.  Why is that?

The documentary was mainly about being disgusted and angry by homelessness, but offers the feeblest of solutions, which is to use prison for medical treatment.  How’s that working compared to anything else?  Does it save money?  Does it lower property crime?  Does it lower the number of homeless?  Does it cure addiction?  And does it do it more effectively (financially and medically) than any other solution?

ASD, I believe you do not truly care about homelessness, unless open season was declared on them.  You are just using homelessness as an excuse to bellyache about “liberal” policies, but your real solution is not compassion, but more alienation and isolation in the hope the problem goes to some other community without you actually having to solve it.

 
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24 September 2019 08:30
 

Here is an idea to combat homelessness!

Why not bring in more illegals, declare sanctuary cities, and offer them all free healthcare?  Another idea might be to pass a law to make it unconstitutional to be homeless and force the Federal Government to provide housing and protect the constitutional rights of each person. This will also help boost the housing market and the economy. It will practically pay for itself.

 
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Celal - 24 September 2019 08:30 AM

Here is an idea to combat homelessness!

Why not bring in more illegals, declare sanctuary cities, and offer them all free healthcare?  Another idea might be to pass a law to make it unconstitutional to be homeless and force the Federal Government to provide housing and protect the constitutional rights of each person. This will also help boost the housing market and the economy. It will practically pay for itself.


glad you finally get it.
Welcome aboard!

 
 
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