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05 November 2019 10:21
 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/global-warming-is-already-here-denying-it-is-unforgivable/2019/08/18/9af534a4-bf96-11e9-a5c6-1e74f7ec4a93_story.html

Last paragraph in this article:

“The warming will continue. Humanity has steadily shifted the chemistry of the atmosphere, in ways that could not be reversed quickly even if rational policy were being implemented. The carbon dioxide that emerges from smokestacks and tailpipes lingers in the air for decades. All the more reason to change behavior now. Yet, whether for political advantage or out of sheer pigheadedness or both, President Trump continues to deny and ignore reality. It is beyond unforgivable.”

IMHO - Trump and those who thwart immediate reduction in greenhouse gas emissions will cause more death and suffering than WW2 - including the Holocaust, and 26 million Soviet losses.  The worldwide toll will be incalculable.

 

 
 
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05 November 2019 19:06
 

Does the announcement of the US withdrawal from the Paris climate agreement within a week of the 2020 election tie Trump to the environmentalist vote and the future of the next generation?  I think so.

 
 
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05 November 2019 21:07
 

Climate Change scam is easy to peddle when the masses are too lazy to even understand what the hell, Paris Accord Climate Change is. In fact, they count on you not being able to follow the scam as it would exceed the attention span of the most.

Public Service: 

Here is the skinny about the scam. Businesses Worldwide produced Carbon pollution BEFORE the Paris Agreement.  They can continue to pollute at least as much AFTER. The biggest offenders like China and India will still be allowed to pollute, in fact China is even allowed double its Carbon pollution by 2030.  So what gives?  The scam organization called IPCC that are influenced by people like Al Gore and other World’s elite generate something called “Carbon Credit” out of nothing. They sell these Carbon Credits to businesses that don’t comply with the pollution targets in order for the businesses to continue polluting.  So, the IPCC gets rich and even linked to commodity markets where these carbon credits traded and the monies are funneled back into IPCC.

What the US was asked as part of the Paris agreement is to fund what is called “Green Fund” to the tune of $100 Billion so that these monies can be distributed to countries that wont pay the Carbon Tax penalty to IPCC…. US monies are coming from the American Tax payers going to IPCC Mafia….  This is an obvious scam. Thankfully we have a President who wont put up with this crap and rightfully said NO.

 
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05 November 2019 22:13
 
Celal - 05 November 2019 09:07 PM

Climate Change scam is easy to peddle when the masses are too lazy to even understand what the hell, Paris Accord Climate Change is. In fact, they count on you not being able to follow the scam as it would exceed the attention span of the most.

Public Service: 

Here is the skinny about the scam. Businesses Worldwide produced Carbon pollution BEFORE the Paris Agreement.  They can continue to pollute at least as much AFTER. The biggest offenders like China and India will still be allowed to pollute, in fact China is even allowed double its Carbon pollution by 2030.  So what gives?  The scam organization called IPCC that are influenced by people like Al Gore and other World’s elite generate something called “Carbon Credit” out of nothing. They sell these Carbon Credits to businesses that don’t comply with the pollution targets in order for the businesses to continue polluting.  So, the IPCC gets rich and even linked to commodity markets where these carbon credits traded and the monies are funneled back into IPCC.

What the US was asked as part of the Paris agreement is to fund what is called “Green Fund” to the tune of $100 Billion so that these monies can be distributed to countries that wont pay the Carbon Tax penalty to IPCC…. US monies are coming from the American Tax payers going to IPCC Mafia….  This is an obvious scam. Thankfully we have a President who wont put up with this crap and rightfully said NO.

Another idiot denier, still clinging to his dogma and ideology when the crisis has already hit. He’d rather remain blinkered than admit the fact that this is not a matter of partisan politics, it’s a danger for all.

 
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06 November 2019 00:20
 

Don’t believe climate scientists’ warnings?  Then show consistency and don’t believe in electricity, chemistry, biology, physics, and medicine, which are all based in science.  Unlike politics or religion, science cannot be cherry picked until you get the results you want.

Climate change deniers make up their arguments as they go just to cheerlead for their side without providing any objective evidence in support, except to believe them because they said so and they will get mad at you if you don’t.  First they said it was not real.  Then they said it is real but not caused by anything man has done.  Now Celal admits that although it is real, and caused by something man has done, fixing it is not fair to the American taxpayer, then refuses to offer a solution, which implies nothing can be done so don’t try, and keep burning oil like there are infinite tomorrows.  Thanks for nothing.

 
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06 November 2019 11:28
 
Celal - 05 November 2019 09:07 PM

Climate Change scam is easy to peddle when the masses are too lazy to even understand what the hell, Paris Accord Climate Change is. In fact, they count on you not being able to follow the scam as it would exceed the attention span of the most.

Public Service: 

Here is the skinny about the scam. Businesses Worldwide produced Carbon pollution BEFORE the Paris Agreement.  They can continue to pollute at least as much AFTER. The biggest offenders like China and India will still be allowed to pollute, in fact China is even allowed double its Carbon pollution by 2030.  So what gives?  The scam organization called IPCC that are influenced by people like Al Gore and other World’s elite generate something called “Carbon Credit” out of nothing. They sell these Carbon Credits to businesses that don’t comply with the pollution targets in order for the businesses to continue polluting.  So, the IPCC gets rich and even linked to commodity markets where these carbon credits traded and the monies are funneled back into IPCC.

What the US was asked as part of the Paris agreement is to fund what is called “Green Fund” to the tune of $100 Billion so that these monies can be distributed to countries that wont pay the Carbon Tax penalty to IPCC…. US monies are coming from the American Tax payers going to IPCC Mafia….  This is an obvious scam. Thankfully we have a President who wont put up with this crap and rightfully said NO.

https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2019/01/chart-of-the-day-these-countries-have-the-largest-carbon-footprints/

At this site, scroll down to see per capita carbon footprints in the world’s industrial countries.  If the average person in China and India had the same carbon footprint as the average American, even Mar a Lago would soon be unliveable.  Some part of you must know this.  Do you have a plan that would prevent this from happening?

 
 
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06 November 2019 17:47
 
unsmoked - 06 November 2019 11:28 AM
Celal - 05 November 2019 09:07 PM

Climate Change scam is easy to peddle when the masses are too lazy to even understand what the hell, Paris Accord Climate Change is. In fact, they count on you not being able to follow the scam as it would exceed the attention span of the most.

Public Service: 

Here is the skinny about the scam. Businesses Worldwide produced Carbon pollution BEFORE the Paris Agreement.  They can continue to pollute at least as much AFTER. The biggest offenders like China and India will still be allowed to pollute, in fact China is even allowed double its Carbon pollution by 2030.  So what gives?  The scam organization called IPCC that are influenced by people like Al Gore and other World’s elite generate something called “Carbon Credit” out of nothing. They sell these Carbon Credits to businesses that don’t comply with the pollution targets in order for the businesses to continue polluting.  So, the IPCC gets rich and even linked to commodity markets where these carbon credits traded and the monies are funneled back into IPCC.

What the US was asked as part of the Paris agreement is to fund what is called “Green Fund” to the tune of $100 Billion so that these monies can be distributed to countries that wont pay the Carbon Tax penalty to IPCC…. US monies are coming from the American Tax payers going to IPCC Mafia….  This is an obvious scam. Thankfully we have a President who wont put up with this crap and rightfully said NO.

https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2019/01/chart-of-the-day-these-countries-have-the-largest-carbon-footprints/

At this site, scroll down to see per capita carbon footprints in the world’s industrial countries.  If the average person in China and India had the same carbon footprint as the average American, even Mar a Lago would soon be unliveable.  Some part of you must know this.  Do you have a plan that would prevent this from happening?

Wow. Take a look at the carbon footprint those Canadians are making.

Obviously, their carbon dioxide emissions are drifting down into America from Canada. I think America is blameless and barely producing any carbon emissions at all. It’s all those Canadians fault.

That’s what my gut is telling me. Who needs facts?

I think Trump better set those Canadians straight, or else we might have to build a second wall, this one on the Canadian border. A really tall one, you know, to block those greenhouse gases from drifting south. A big, beautiful, really, really, really tall wall.

And we can make the Canadians pay for it.

 
 
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07 November 2019 11:58
 
Cheshire Cat - 06 November 2019 05:47 PM
unsmoked - 06 November 2019 11:28 AM
Celal - 05 November 2019 09:07 PM

Climate Change scam is easy to peddle when the masses are too lazy to even understand what the hell, Paris Accord Climate Change is. In fact, they count on you not being able to follow the scam as it would exceed the attention span of the most.

Public Service: 

Here is the skinny about the scam. Businesses Worldwide produced Carbon pollution BEFORE the Paris Agreement.  They can continue to pollute at least as much AFTER. The biggest offenders like China and India will still be allowed to pollute, in fact China is even allowed double its Carbon pollution by 2030.  So what gives?  The scam organization called IPCC that are influenced by people like Al Gore and other World’s elite generate something called “Carbon Credit” out of nothing. They sell these Carbon Credits to businesses that don’t comply with the pollution targets in order for the businesses to continue polluting.  So, the IPCC gets rich and even linked to commodity markets where these carbon credits traded and the monies are funneled back into IPCC.

What the US was asked as part of the Paris agreement is to fund what is called “Green Fund” to the tune of $100 Billion so that these monies can be distributed to countries that wont pay the Carbon Tax penalty to IPCC…. US monies are coming from the American Tax payers going to IPCC Mafia….  This is an obvious scam. Thankfully we have a President who wont put up with this crap and rightfully said NO.

https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2019/01/chart-of-the-day-these-countries-have-the-largest-carbon-footprints/

At this site, scroll down to see per capita carbon footprints in the world’s industrial countries.  If the average person in China and India had the same carbon footprint as the average American, even Mar a Lago would soon be unliveable.  Some part of you must know this.  Do you have a plan that would prevent this from happening?

Wow. Take a look at the carbon footprint those Canadians are making.

Obviously, their carbon dioxide emissions are drifting down into America from Canada. I think America is blameless and barely producing any carbon emissions at all. It’s all those Canadians fault.

That’s what my gut is telling me. Who needs facts?

I think Trump better set those Canadians straight, or else we might have to build a second wall, this one on the Canadian border. A really tall one, you know, to block those greenhouse gases from drifting south. A big, beautiful, really, really, really tall wall.

And we can make the Canadians pay for it.

Listen, that’s the tip of the iceberg.  You know all that manufacturing we’ve sent to Mexico.  You think the smoke from those factories isn’t drifting north?  And, remember those giant paper balloons with bombs attached the Japanese sent to the U.S. during WW2?  How did they get here?  Right!  The Jet Stream.  What does that tell you about where Japan and China are sending their air pollution? 

So, even though the average North American has twice the carbon footprint of the average Chinese, and 9 times the CO2 footprint of the average person in India . . . they are the ones who are causing climate change, because they are allowing their pollution to drift around the world.  The pollution in Vegas stays in Vegas!

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/air-pollution-china-is-spreading-across-pacific-us-180949395/

“These findings are, naturally, pretty worrisome. But for U.S. readers, the results of the study on the global spread of Chinese air pollution, published yesterday in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, might be even more troubling, both because they show the effects of Chinese pollution here in the U.S. and because they trace much of the responsibility back to American consumers, who buy a large proportion of the goods manufactured in China.”

 

 

 
 
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07 November 2019 16:50
 
Celal - 05 November 2019 09:07 PM

  So, the IPCC gets rich…

The IPCC is comprised of around 190 member nations. So who exactly has gotten rich as a direct result of an association with the IPCC?? Please name names.

Ron

 
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MrRon - 07 November 2019 04:50 PM
Celal - 05 November 2019 09:07 PM

  So, the IPCC gets rich…

The IPCC is comprised of around 190 member nations. So who exactly has gotten rich as a direct result of an association with the IPCC?? Please name names.

Ron

I see you could not follow the IPCC point. Then lets talk something you might relate better in the climate change hysteria…

San Francisco just put a mural of the teen activist Greta Thunberg. Now, just Imagine waking up, shooting up heroin, and walking out onto the sidewalk of Geary Street to take your morning dump, then looking up and seeing this. Do you see the irony?

https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/08/us/greta-thunberg-mural-san-francisco-trnd/index.html?utm_content=2019-11-09T03:12:39&utm_source=twCNN&utm_term=link&utm_medium=social

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Celal - 09 November 2019 03:50 PM

San Francisco just put a mural of the teen activist Greta Thunberg. Now, just Imagine waking up, shooting up heroin, and walking out onto the sidewalk of Geary Street to take your morning dump, then looking up and seeing this. Do you see the irony?

They’ll be thankful it is high up enough to be above eventual sea levels? You play a scratchy tune with no substance.

 
 
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09 November 2019 19:29
 

Miami would like the scam to go away.

 
 
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10 November 2019 06:55
 
Celal - 09 November 2019 03:50 PM
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Celal - 05 November 2019 09:07 PM

  So, the IPCC gets rich…

The IPCC is comprised of around 190 member nations. So who exactly has gotten rich as a direct result of an association with the IPCC?? Please name names.

Ron

I see you could not follow the IPCC point. Then lets talk something you might relate better in the climate change hysteria…

No. Stop deflecting. You said “the IPCC gets rich”. The IPCC is an organization of governments. I want to know which governments (or individuals if you prefer) have gotten rich? And how do you know their financial status?

Ron

 
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10 November 2019 07:52
 
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Celal - 09 November 2019 03:50 PM

San Francisco just put a mural of the teen activist Greta Thunberg. Now, just Imagine waking up, shooting up heroin, and walking out onto the sidewalk of Geary Street to take your morning dump, then looking up and seeing this. Do you see the irony?

They’ll be thankful it is high up enough to be above eventual sea levels? You play a scratchy tune with no substance.

Your escape hatch word must be “eventual”.  Surely the most ardent Climate Change activists don’t take much stock in it for they buy their homes at the Sea Levels. Some day… OK lets say “eventually” you will come to believe that Climate Change is just another apocalypse/political racket! Such claims, typically you would only encounter in the religious World. But the left’s apocalyptic ideology is not distinguishable from the traditional religious claims. 

Remember Global Cooling in the 1970s?  How about nuclear winter in the 1980s? Of course you don’t. That’s because it didn’t happen. Yet nuclear winter was all the rage on the Left in the 1980s. A generation from now, no one will recall climate change either, and for the same reason. Meanwhile Greta Thunberg’s mural will be surrounded by blocks of designated dump sites for the Californians to enjoy!

 
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10 November 2019 11:09
 
Celal - 10 November 2019 07:52 AM
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San Francisco just put a mural of the teen activist Greta Thunberg. Now, just Imagine waking up, shooting up heroin, and walking out onto the sidewalk of Geary Street to take your morning dump, then looking up and seeing this. Do you see the irony?

They’ll be thankful it is high up enough to be above eventual sea levels? You play a scratchy tune with no substance.

Your escape hatch word must be “eventual”.  Surely the most ardent Climate Change activists don’t take much stock in it for they buy their homes at the Sea Levels. Some day… OK lets say “eventually” you will come to believe that Climate Change is just another apocalypse/political racket! Such claims, typically you would only encounter in the religious World. But the left’s apocalyptic ideology is not distinguishable from the traditional religious claims. 

Remember Global Cooling in the 1970s?  How about nuclear winter in the 1980s? Of course you don’t. That’s because it didn’t happen. Yet nuclear winter was all the rage on the Left in the 1980s. A generation from now, no one will recall climate change either, and for the same reason. Meanwhile Greta Thunberg’s mural will be surrounded by blocks of designated dump sites for the Californians to enjoy!

Eventual?

https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/04/health/most-polluted-cities-india-china-intl/index.html

“Air pollution steals our livelihoods and our futures,” said Yeb Sano, executive director of Greenpeace Southeast Asia. “In addition to human lives lost, there’s an estimated global cost of 225 billion dollars in lost labor, and trillions in medical costs. This has enormous impacts, on our health and on our wallets.”

Eventually?

Probably you don’t live where the heat and humidity are becoming unbearable.  (see map of U.S.)  https://www.washingtonpost.com/weather/2019/08/13/increasing-humidity-driven-part-by-climate-change-is-making-even-modest-heat-waves-unbearable/

 

 

 
 
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10 November 2019 11:17
 

Great. . . now Celal compares science to religion.  Stick to bashing Islam, Celal.  You know nothing of science if you think it is a political conspiracy.

 
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