“Seriously, it looks like we’re planning our extinction.”  -  Deepak Chopra (quoted in TIME magazine)

 
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21 November 2019 10:46
 

Chopra is referring to climate change, extinction of species, poison in our food chain, nuclear weapons, biological warfare etc.

https://time.com/5724034/climate-change-childrens-health/

quote from this article:

“One of the most damaging examples of that cumulative phenomenon is the microscopic particulate matter produced by burning fossil fuels. The study found that more than 90% of the world’s 2.2 billion children are exposed to particles at concentrations above the safe limit defined by the World Health Organization. Drawing their first breath in a world like that leaves them at a higher lifetime risk of developing asthma, pneumonia and chronic obstructive pulmonary disease. And while the air is, on average, cleaner in wealthy countries like the U.S. than it was 50 years ago, the world as a whole is becoming more urbanized, with 70% of the global population expected to be living in cities by 2050—precisely where the air is dirtiest.”

(last paragraph in article):  “Climate change is a perversely egalitarian scourge, sparing no one, affecting everyone. But the special toll it takes on children makes it perversely cruel too. In a world that ostensibly prizes justice, it is unjust in the extreme for the people who are the least responsible for causing a problem to suffer from it the most. The Paris Accord—honored instead of ignored—offers a way out.

Meanwhile Trump attempts to bribe the president of Ukraine in order to get dirt on his political rival.  “Seriously, it looks like . . . . . “

Insanity?

 
 
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23 November 2019 14:34
 

Well, maybe them fellars talking about the Fermi Paradox were right.
On the other hand, I can think of quite a few species (oink oink, cluck cluck, moo moo) who would be quite happy if we managed to bugger off.

I don’t really mean that, of course. I’d miss us, even annoying sophists with super-cool-colored glasses like Cheap Hack D’Oprah.

 
 
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Vociferous Fuckweasel - 23 November 2019 02:34 PM

Well, maybe them fellars talking about the Fermi Paradox were right.
On the other hand, I can think of quite a few species (oink oink, cluck cluck, moo moo) who would be quite happy if we managed to bugger off.

I don’t really mean that, of course. I’d miss us, even annoying sophists with super-cool-colored glasses like Cheap Hack D’Oprah.

I quoted him because the comment appeared in TIME magazine.  Imagine if that line in the OP was uttered by Joel Osteen speaking to his congregation of 60,000 in his Lakewood, TX megachurch . . . or in thousands of pulpits across the country; or by the Pope, and in the Pentagon, and the marble halls of Washington.  Perhaps Deepak could get a seat behind the podium at Trump’s next rally, and suddenly turn his MAG poster around while Trump was saying that global warming was a hoax.  “SERIOUSLY, IT LOOKS LIKE WE’RE PLANNING OUR EXTINCTION!” - appearing on TV’s around the world before the pack pounced on him, tore him to pieces and stamped on his cool colored glasses.

Remember about 80 years ago when the ‘pack’ at Madison Square Garden pounced on the infidel?  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4zRZ7XLYSA 

 

 

 
 
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Vociferous Fuckweasel - 23 November 2019 02:34 PM

Well, maybe them fellars talking about the Fermi Paradox were right.

Maybe the Fermi Paradox’s lack of visits or communication can be explained if it’s felt by others elsewhere that it’s best to just leave us alone to extinct ourselves.

On the other hand, I can think of quite a few species (oink oink, cluck cluck, moo moo) who would be quite happy if we managed to bugger off.

Of course our Anthropene Extinction will take a lot of other species with us.But the Earth and its life have survived a number of other mass-extinctions, and it will survive this one too. It will be no big deal, to a planet that has already had at least 6 mass-extinctions.

When, after the Anthropene Extinction, the surviving species evolve to fill the vacated niches, a whole new world of different and diverse living things will evolve.

 

 
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11 September 2020 23:14
 

Those with the power to make change happen tend to believe most strongly that unmitigated self-interest is the only true virtue. Given that premise, it is little wonder that any asset over which one of them does not have sovereign control will not be fostered. Even the notion of “common good” contradicts the premise. When any actual commonly-held asset reaches its carrying capacity, the powerful according to this premise will be incapable of conceiving of the situation, much less doing anything about it.

 
 
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14 September 2020 07:58
 

Poldano—

Yes, the societal-world on this planet is rampantly-criminal.  A crisis exposes a surprising population-percentage of sociopaths. 
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If there’s are or might be 1 or more advanced spacefaring civilizations out there, then it might be a good idea if our species never demonstrates any interstellar capability.  They might decide to not let one rotten apple infest the barrel.
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Speaking of Fermi’s Paradox, of course there’s another explanation:
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Yes, this galaxy is old enough that it would have been possible for it to be thoroughly explored, surveyed and recorded many times overr, even with our currently-available slow rockets…using self-replicating automated probes.  But who would want to start such an incredibly long-term project, which wouldn’t bear fruit or make any difference until long after its initiators and their great great granchildren are dust? It wouldn’t appeal to me, for one.
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So maybe it’s just that no one is interested in initiating a galaxtic-survey, and there are other civilizations, but they aren’t interested in the time-consuming task of surveying the galaxy.
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So here are 3 possible answers to the Fermi Paradox:
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1. There’s no one out there No one else in the galaxy.  Maybe no one else in the universe if it’s finite.  ...or nearby enough to matter if it’s infinite.
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2. There’s someone else, but they choose to just leave us alone to extinct ourselves.
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3. There’s someone else, but they aren’t interested in initiating a galactic-survey project that neither they nor their reasonably close descendents will ever get results from.  ...and they’re far away enough that they don’t have feasibly-gained evidence that our star has potentially lifebearing planets.

 

 
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14 September 2020 08:13
 

Regarding the Ferni Paradox, someone suggested another possibility:

Maybe all the other barbarian-primitives in our region of interstellar-space have been exterminated. ...and we’re relatively new, and weren’t here yet at the time of that extermination-sweep.

...but maybe there’ll later be another survey and clean-up….

 
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8262014 - 14 September 2020 08:13 AM

Regarding the Ferni Paradox, someone suggested another possibility:

Maybe all the other barbarian-primitives in our region of interstellar-space have been exterminated. ...and we’re relatively new, and weren’t here yet at the time of that extermination-sweep.

...but maybe there’ll later be another survey and clean-up….

There’s a fourth option. Read Remembrance of Earth’s Past trilogy by Liu Sixin.

 
 
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16 March 2021 19:38
 

Singer was just swatting flies smile

I don’t remember seeing it referred to by that title.  In the U.S. it’s usually referred to by the Three Body Problem title.

[ Edited: 16 March 2021 19:41 by Potato]