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In the longer run, Trump may have handed Iraq over to Iran.

 
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burt - 03 January 2020 04:39 PM

In the longer run, Trump may have handed Iraq over to Iran.

The hand off began when Bush took down Sadam.

 
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Posted: 04 January 2020 08:59 in the ‘Dump Trump’ category:

January 4, 2020.  War is not what it used to be.  Submarines and $13 billion dollar aircraft carriers have been replaced by $500 drones from the hobby shops, retrofitted by farmers to kill feral hogs.  The U.S. Secret Service is now faced with the nearly impossible task of protecting Trump and those around him.  If Trump and Pence were traveling together and suffered the same fate as General Soleimani and his entourage, would Nancy Pelosi become president?

https://spectrum.ieee.org/tech-talk/aerospace/military/us-military-evaluates-antidrone-tech

War is not what it used to be.  Lights out and computers down for NY City?

 
 
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Celal - 04 January 2020 10:44 AM
burt - 03 January 2020 04:39 PM

In the longer run, Trump may have handed Iraq over to Iran.

The hand off began when Bush took down Sadam.

I concur.

 
 
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bbearren - 04 January 2020 03:22 PM
Celal - 04 January 2020 10:44 AM
burt - 03 January 2020 04:39 PM

In the longer run, Trump may have handed Iraq over to Iran.

The hand off began when Bush took down Sadam.

I concur.

One of the few times I’ve agreed with Celal. Back around 2006 I predicted the emergence of a North/South split in the Middle East with Iran, Iraq and Syria (as client states) supported by Russia and China on one side and Israel, Saudi Arabia, and Egypt (plus other smaller states) supported by the US on the other. And Jordan between a rock and a hard place.

 
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04 January 2020 19:26
 
Celal - 04 January 2020 10:44 AM
burt - 03 January 2020 04:39 PM

In the longer run, Trump may have handed Iraq over to Iran.

The hand off began when Bush took down Sadam.

I actually agree with Celal on this one.

 
 
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Cheshire Cat - 04 January 2020 07:26 PM
Celal - 04 January 2020 10:44 AM
burt - 03 January 2020 04:39 PM

In the longer run, Trump may have handed Iraq over to Iran.

The hand off began when Bush took down Sadam.

I actually agree with Celal on this one.

Saddam was going to die someday, and Iraq would have fallen into a mess anyway.  The only reason the US cares is because of the oil.  North Korea irritates the US, too, but they don’t have anything we really want.

 
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bbearren - 04 January 2020 03:21 PM

War With Iran

In Texas you can probably buy a T-shirt that says, REMEMBER THE ALAMO.  In Tehran, you can probably buy one that says, REMEMBER STUXNET.  https://www.mcafee.com/enterprise/en-us/security-awareness/ransomware/what-is-stuxnet.html

Today, would anyone be surprised if Burlington Northern Santa Fe (BNSF) experienced computer problems and an inexplicable derailment in downtown Seattle that caused a massive spill of toxic chemicals?

Who to blame?  https://www.cnn.com/2016/09/27/politics/dnc-cyberattack-400-pound-hackers/index.html

“It could be Russia, but it could also be China. It could also be lots of other people,” he said during the first presidential debate. “It also could be somebody sitting on their bed that weighs 400 pounds.”
He also devoted a portion of his answer about cyberattacks to the precociousness of his 10-year-old son.
“So we have to get very, very tough on cyber and cyber warfare. It is a huge problem. I have a son. He’s 10 years old. He has computers. He is so good with these computers, it’s unbelievable. The security aspect of cyber is very, very tough. And maybe it’s hardly doable,” he said.

What?  Another spill?  A shipment of nuclear fuel rods bound for the Bangor Submarine Base?  Another 400 pound person sitting on their bed?

The U.S. was the first to use nuclear weapons against civilian populations.  Then, with Israel, the first to engage in cyber warfare.  (STUXNET)

 

 

 
 
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Something Wicked This Way Comes

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2020/01/06/disturbing-history-behind-trumps-idea-target-iranian-cultural-sites/

By suggesting strikes on “52 Iranian sites,” including some that are important to “the Iranian culture,” Trump threatened a way of waging war that has drawn growing outrage in recent decades, critics argued Monday.

Such attacks have been condemned as “cultural cleansing” by Irina Bokova, a former director general of the U.N. Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization (UNESCO). “The deliberate destruction of heritage is a war crime,” she told the U.N. Security Council in 2017, adding that “it has become a tactic of war to tear societies over the long term.”

 
 
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07 January 2020 06:45
 

It is also against US law.

 
 
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07 January 2020 10:18
 

Something Wicked This Way Comes

Americans are hugely responsible for global warming.  As we speak, our per capita carbon footprint is twice the size of the average person in China and ten times the average person in India.

If Iranians are patient and leave their urge for revenge to the laws of cause and effect, they’ll see ‘natural’ disasters striking the U.S as a direct result of global warming.

Vengeance is mine sayeth the Lord.  I will take revenge; I will pay them back. In due time their feet will slip. Their day of disaster will arrive, and their destiny will overtake them. -  Deuteronomy 32:35

https://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/the-dangers-posed-by-the-killing-of-qassem-suleimani?

 

 

 

[ Edited: 07 January 2020 10:20 by unsmoked]
 
 
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unsmoked - 05 January 2020 12:00 PM
bbearren - 04 January 2020 03:21 PM

War With Iran

In Texas you can probably buy a T-shirt that says, REMEMBER THE ALAMO.  In Tehran, you can probably buy one that says, REMEMBER STUXNET.  https://www.mcafee.com/enterprise/en-us/security-awareness/ransomware/what-is-stuxnet.html

Today, would anyone be surprised if Burlington Northern Santa Fe (BNSF) experienced computer problems and an inexplicable derailment in downtown Seattle that caused a massive spill of toxic chemicals?

Who to blame?  https://www.cnn.com/2016/09/27/politics/dnc-cyberattack-400-pound-hackers/index.html

“It could be Russia, but it could also be China. It could also be lots of other people,” he said during the first presidential debate. “It also could be somebody sitting on their bed that weighs 400 pounds.”
He also devoted a portion of his answer about cyberattacks to the precociousness of his 10-year-old son.
“So we have to get very, very tough on cyber and cyber warfare. It is a huge problem. I have a son. He’s 10 years old. He has computers. He is so good with these computers, it’s unbelievable. The security aspect of cyber is very, very tough. And maybe it’s hardly doable,” he said.

What?  Another spill?  A shipment of nuclear fuel rods bound for the Bangor Submarine Base?  Another 400 pound person sitting on their bed?

The U.S. was the first to use nuclear weapons against civilian populations.  Then, with Israel, the first to engage in cyber warfare.  (STUXNET)

New article about STUXNET and cyber attacks:

How many might die in such an attack?  Could it cost a trillion dollars?

https://www.newyorker.com/tech/annals-of-technology/should-the-us-expect-an-iranian-cyberattack?

 

 
 
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https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2020/02/10/qassem-suleimani-and-how-nations-decide-to-kill?

When nation-states engage in the bloody calculus of killing, the boundary between whom they can target and whom they can’t is porous. On January 3rd, the United States launched a drone strike that executed Major General Qassem Suleimani, the chief of Iran’s élite special-forces-and-intelligence unit, the Quds Force. He was one of Iran’s most powerful leaders, with control over paramilitary operations across the Middle East, including a campaign of roadside bombings and other attacks by proxy forces that had killed at least six hundred Americans during the Iraq War.

Since the Hague Convention of 1907, killing a foreign government official outside wartime has generally been barred by the Law of Armed Conflict. When the Trump Administration first announced the killing of Suleimani . . .

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