Moving the election?

 
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30 July 2020 08:39
 

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/trump-election-date-1.5668638

Trump tweeted Thursday: “With Universal Mail-In Voting (not Absentee Voting, which is good), 2020 will be the most INACCURATE & FRAUDULENT Election in history. It will be a great embarrassment to the USA. Delay the Election until people can properly, securely and safely vote???”

Hmmm….

 
 
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30 July 2020 10:56
 

No Elections until they are 100% accurate!
Which means never.

 
 
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30 July 2020 12:46
 

Yet more pointless flailing around by Trump.

The reaction to his “proposal” has been dismal.

The US constitution grants the power to set an election date to Congress, not the president, and numerous opposition figures immediately rejected Trump’s suggestion, as did a commissioner with the US Federal Election Commission, Ellen Weintraub.

Congressional Republicans quickly sought to distance themselves from the president over his suggestion. The Senate majority leader, Mitch McConnell, told a Kentucky television station that the election date was “set in stone”.

Senator Marco Rubio, a loyalist on most issues, said: “I wish he hadn’t said that, but it’s not going to change: We are going to have an election in November.”

Lindsey Graham, normally a cheerleader for the president, told CNN he did not think Trump’s tweet about the election was “a particularly good idea”.

Trump himself and numerous members of his administration, including Vice-President Mike Pence, have voted by mail.

https://tinyurl.com/yytxe5eh

 
 
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30 July 2020 22:51
 

sweaty desperation

 
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31 July 2020 00:42
 

Delaying the election does not allow the president, or vice president, to stay in office, since the term is defined by the constitution as four years.  It has been suggested that the Speaker of the House is next in line to be president.  On the other hand, Congress has been known to chose a president, and currently the Democrats have the edge.  Trump is trying to delay his removal from office and the protections from litigation it provides.

And as always, he is making an unfounded claim which his sheep will dutifully follow to protect their cognitive dissonance.

 
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31 July 2020 06:01
 

I don’t get it. Has Trump ever elaborated what he means by “properly, securely and safely vote”? Didn’t he express concerns back in 2016 when there was no clamoring for mail-in voting? So if in-person voting is bad, and mail-in voting is bad, what does he propose?

And speaking of a “great embarrassment to the USA”, nothing can top the day Trump was elected as our cartoon President.

Ron

 
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31 July 2020 08:49
 
Skipshot - 31 July 2020 12:42 AM

Delaying the election does not allow the president, or vice president, to stay in office, since the term is defined by the constitution as four years.  It has been suggested that the Speaker of the House is next in line to be president.  On the other hand, Congress has been known to chose a president, and currently the Democrats have the edge.  Trump is trying to delay his removal from office and the protections from litigation it provides.

And as always, he is making an unfounded claim which his sheep will dutifully follow to protect their cognitive dissonance.

Democrats do not necessarily have an edge.  For example, if the procedures for an electoral tie are used, then each state gets one vote, so California’s vote to choose a president has as much weight as Wyoming.  The edge in that case is clearly Republican.  It’s also why 3rd party candidates are advantageous to Trump.

 
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31 July 2020 09:48
 
weird buffalo - 31 July 2020 08:49 AM
Skipshot - 31 July 2020 12:42 AM

Delaying the election does not allow the president, or vice president, to stay in office, since the term is defined by the constitution as four years.  It has been suggested that the Speaker of the House is next in line to be president.  On the other hand, Congress has been known to chose a president, and currently the Democrats have the edge.  Trump is trying to delay his removal from office and the protections from litigation it provides.

And as always, he is making an unfounded claim which his sheep will dutifully follow to protect their cognitive dissonance.

Democrats do not necessarily have an edge.  For example, if the procedures for an electoral tie are used, then each state gets one vote, so California’s vote to choose a president has as much weight as Wyoming.  The edge in that case is clearly Republican.  It’s also why 3rd party candidates are advantageous to Trump.

It goes to the House of Representatives.

 
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MrRon - 31 July 2020 06:01 AM

I don’t get it. Has Trump ever elaborated what he means by “properly, securely and safely vote”? Didn’t he express concerns back in 2016 when there was no clamoring for mail-in voting? So if in-person voting is bad, and mail-in voting is bad, what does he propose?

And speaking of a “great embarrassment to the USA”, nothing can top the day Trump was elected as our cartoon President.

Ron

With mail-in voting, all the suppression tactics used to intimidate people away from, or make voting a royal pain for certain demographics, get removed.  Thus the vote will be more representative of what the population desires, rather than a win due to attrition at the polling places.  Look at Kentucky’s last vote.

 
 
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31 July 2020 11:44
 

https://www.newyorker.com/news/letter-from-trumps-washington/trump-is-the-election-crisis-he-is-warning-about?

quote from this New Yorker article:

“So, sorry, we cannot just ignore it when the President threatens to cancel an election. This is the kind of statement that should haunt your dreams. It is wannabe-dictator talk. It is dangerous even if it is not attached to any actions. And those who think that some actions will not follow have not been paying attention. My alarm stems from having covered Russia when Vladimir Putin was dismantling the fragile, flawed democratic institutions that the country had established after the fall of the Soviet Union. It stems from reading history. It stems from having watched the past four years in America, where, day by day, the unthinkable has happened and been justified, rationalized, and explained away.

quote continued:  “Some of Trump’s supporters are already normalizing his attacks on the foundations of American democracy; he has succeeded in getting us used to the idea, to having a conversation that should never be happening. In April, Biden warned, at a fund-raiser, that Trump might attempt to “kick back the election” if he was losing. At the time, Steve Guest, the director of rapid response for the Republican National Committee, responded, “Joe Biden is off his rocker to make such an irresponsible allegation without any evidence.” Well, now we have the evidence. And what did Steve Guest have to say on Thursday? When I e-mailed him, he did not respond. His Twitter feed was silent. “Those are the incoherent, conspiracy-theory ramblings of a lost candidate who is out of touch with reality,” the Trump campaign spokesman Tim Murtaugh said, about Biden, back in April. “President Trump has been clear that the election will happen on November 3rd.” So what are we supposed to think now?”

Read more in article.

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burt - 31 July 2020 09:48 AM
weird buffalo - 31 July 2020 08:49 AM
Skipshot - 31 July 2020 12:42 AM

Delaying the election does not allow the president, or vice president, to stay in office, since the term is defined by the constitution as four years.  It has been suggested that the Speaker of the House is next in line to be president.  On the other hand, Congress has been known to chose a president, and currently the Democrats have the edge.  Trump is trying to delay his removal from office and the protections from litigation it provides.

And as always, he is making an unfounded claim which his sheep will dutifully follow to protect their cognitive dissonance.

Democrats do not necessarily have an edge.  For example, if the procedures for an electoral tie are used, then each state gets one vote, so California’s vote to choose a president has as much weight as Wyoming.  The edge in that case is clearly Republican.  It’s also why 3rd party candidates are advantageous to Trump.

It goes to the House of Representatives.

And how does the House conduct their voting on this specific type of issue?

Contingent election.

The House votes en bloc.  Each state gets one vote.  Wyoming’s delegation gets just as many votes as California.  Certain aspects of this voting can be changed, but the one vote/state rule is in the 12th amendment.

[ Edited: 31 July 2020 11:48 by weird buffalo]