Ethnicity

 
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06 August 2020 11:42
 

Why lots of people say saying your Spanish is wrong, it’s a language when there is actually proof it is also an ethnicity? Why anthropologists say ethnicity isn’t genetic and it isn’t based on looks generally speaking and it’s based on how you are raised like a black person raises in Greek culture is ethnicity Greek when there are actually distinct features you can tell someone is Greek, way before the time the white supremacists and European scientific racism came in the 16th century and made race a social construct?

 
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06 August 2020 11:52
 
Cs3 - 06 August 2020 11:42 AM

Why lots of people say saying your Spanish is wrong, it’s a language when there is actually proof it is also an ethnicity? Why anthropologists say ethnicity isn’t genetic and it isn’t based on looks generally speaking and it’s based on how you are raised like a black person raises in Greek culture is ethnicity Greek when there are actually distinct features you can tell someone is Greek, way before the time the white supremacists and European scientific racism came in the 16th century and made race a social construct?

You’ve got several questions and claims all bundled together here. I’d suggest that you break these questions and thoughts into several different threads.

and welcome to the forum.

 
 
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06 August 2020 12:48
 

The English barely speak the same language that they did from 500 years ago.  A non-native English speaker typically has a really hard time with Shakespeare, and even many native speakers of it can barely understand it the first time they hear it.  The Greeks of today have little to nothing in common with those of antiquity.  Beyond culturally, when you consider how much human movement has happened over the past 2300 years, a lot of people have moved into and out of that region.  It’s been invaded and run by multiple different empires, sometimes for several centuries.

I think the first problem is assuming that ethnicity is a stable thing.  It’s better to think of it like a constantly changing thing.

A good analogy would be a sports team.  The team has the same name every year, but the players on the team will gradually change.  Even the coaching staff will change.  Sometimes the specific (or even general) location of the team will change.  The LA Lakers of 2020 have zero traits that have remained since their founding in 1947 in Minneapolis… other than that they still play a sport called basketball.

Not even the geographical concept of Greece has remained stable.  Western Anatolia was considered part of Greece at certain times, but today we would consider it Turkish.  Pick any trait, and it’s changed to at least some degree.

Another giveaway to how unstable of a concept this is, we ourselves as individuals aren’t even stable.  The vast majority of cells in your body are replaced every 7 to 10 years.  You physically are not the exact same person you were 10 years ago, and that’s not even counting any changes due to experiences.  This change would happen if we put you in a medically induced coma for 10 years.

 
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icehorse - 06 August 2020 11:52 AM
Cs3 - 06 August 2020 11:42 AM

Why lots of people say saying your Spanish is wrong, it’s a language when there is actually proof it is also an ethnicity? Why anthropologists say ethnicity isn’t genetic and it isn’t based on looks generally speaking and it’s based on how you are raised like a black person raises in Greek culture is ethnicity Greek when there are actually distinct features you can tell someone is Greek, way before the time the white supremacists and European scientific racism came in the 16th century and made race a social construct?

You’ve got several questions and claims all bundled together here. I’d suggest that you break these questions and thoughts into several different threads.

and welcome to the forum.

Thank you for that. Can you answer them individually for me because I’m tired and busy at the moment please?

 
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06 August 2020 15:04
 

Mr 3 is starting to sound like Irfan.

 
 
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06 August 2020 17:12
 
weird buffalo - 06 August 2020 12:48 PM

The English barely speak the same language that they did from 500 years ago.  A non-native English speaker typically has a really hard time with Shakespeare, and even many native speakers of it can barely understand it the first time they hear it.  The Greeks of today have little to nothing in common with those of antiquity.  Beyond culturally, when you consider how much human movement has happened over the past 2300 years, a lot of people have moved into and out of that region.  It’s been invaded and run by multiple different empires, sometimes for several centuries.

I think the first problem is assuming that ethnicity is a stable thing.  It’s better to think of it like a constantly changing thing.

A good analogy would be a sports team.  The team has the same name every year, but the players on the team will gradually change.  Even the coaching staff will change.  Sometimes the specific (or even general) location of the team will change.  The LA Lakers of 2020 have zero traits that have remained since their founding in 1947 in Minneapolis… other than that they still play a sport called basketball.

Not even the geographical concept of Greece has remained stable.  Western Anatolia was considered part of Greece at certain times, but today we would consider it Turkish.  Pick any trait, and it’s changed to at least some degree.

Another giveaway to how unstable of a concept this is, we ourselves as individuals aren’t even stable.  The vast majority of cells in your body are replaced every 7 to 10 years.  You physically are not the exact same person you were 10 years ago, and that’s not even counting any changes due to experiences.  This change would happen if we put you in a medically induced coma for 10 years.

So the Spanish thing is related to the English thing?

 
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19 August 2020 12:40
 

Maybe.