MTG Does Not Believe in Evolution

 
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09 June 2021 15:50
 

To nobody’s surprise:

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/marjorie-taylor-greene-evolution_n_60c0ab37e4b0b449dc34073f

Conspiracy theory-endorsing Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.) probably shocked no one with her latest anti-evolution declaration about science.

“I don’t believe in evolution,” the QAnon adherent told former Trump White House strategist Steve Bannon on his “Real America’s Voice” podcast this week.

“I don’t believe in that type of so-called science. I don’t believe in evolution. I believe in God,” Greene continued, gesturing with air quotes during a discussion about the potential origin of the coronavirus. An estimated 40% of Americans believe God created humans as described in the Bible, according to a 2019 poll.

Greene has become a GOP celebrity for peddling racist and antisemitic conspiracies, including a claim about Jewish space lasers starting wildfires in California. She was removed from her House committee assignments in February after she liked social media posts calling for the execution of prominent Democrats.

Last month, she likened House mask mandates to the Holocaust.

Her willful ignorance and her hubris is off the charts.

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09 June 2021 21:10
 

I hear the 17 year cicada’s arrived just on time as well.

 
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09 June 2021 22:53
 

She’s an attention whore and using Trump’s tactics to get it.  Whether she believes or not what she says is irrelevant, she just wants clicks and ratings.  Beware of taking the bait.

 
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10 June 2021 16:31
 

If it were up to me, denial of basic scientific facts would immediately disqualify someone from holding public office. Regardless of someone’s politics, I want to know that the people in power are at the very least dealing in reality. That’s not asking for much.

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10 June 2021 19:12
 

Her refusal to deal with reality has already largely stripped her of power.  She has less influence in congress than some staffers because she has no committee assignments.  I’m fine with people voting for who they want.  If they want to send a useless person to congress, they’ll get a useless congressperson.

 
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weird buffalo - 10 June 2021 07:12 PM

Her refusal to deal with reality has already largely stripped her of power.  She has less influence in congress than some staffers because she has no committee assignments.  I’m fine with people voting for who they want.  If they want to send a useless person to congress, they’ll get a useless congressperson.

True, but had she not been so outspoken and openly antagonistic she would have went under the radar while still holding her same anti-scientific views. Moreover, I think an argument can be made that she is, in some sense, quite useful to her party. Her notoriety has garnered lots of attention and her fund raising efforts have raised quite a bit of money. The people that are likely to vote for her (or for her republican counterparts) probably don’t care a heck of a lot about committee assignments. They relish the fact that there is someone in Congress who is not afraid to stand up to the libs and make her opinions known. Besides, the GOP has very little to offer on actual substantive issues anyway, like climate change, gun control, income inequality, pandemic mitigation, etc., so they have become the party of culture wars. There will be no end to the issues that really concern republicans, like Dr. Seuss’s books, Joe Biden’s “unpresidential” dog, Jill Biden’s “doctor” designation, the war on Christmas, personal pronouns, Hunter Biden’s laptop, the war on Thanksgiving, athletes who kneel, the Congress women known as “the squad”, Trump’s delusional claims of a stolen election, Bill Gates’ nefarious vaccine ambitions, etc. And MTG is a great spokesperson for them on that front.   

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MrRon - 10 June 2021 04:31 PM

If it were up to me, denial of basic scientific facts would immediately disqualify someone from holding public office. Regardless of someone’s politics, I want to know that the people in power are at the very least dealing in reality. That’s not asking for much.

Ron

In his Letter to a Christian Nation Sam Harris writes:  “Those with the power to elect our president and congressmen - and many who themselves get elected - believe that dinosaurs lived two by two upon Noah’s ark, that light from distant galaxies was created en route to the earth, and that the first members of our species were fashioned out of dirt and divine breath, in a garden with a talking snake, by the hand of an invisible God.  Among developed nations, America stands alone in these convictions.  Our country now appears, as at no other time in her history, like a lumbering, bellicose, dim-witted giant.”  -  Sam Harris, 2006.

 
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MrRon - 11 June 2021 06:43 AM
weird buffalo - 10 June 2021 07:12 PM

Her refusal to deal with reality has already largely stripped her of power.  She has less influence in congress than some staffers because she has no committee assignments.  I’m fine with people voting for who they want.  If they want to send a useless person to congress, they’ll get a useless congressperson.

True, but had she not been so outspoken and openly antagonistic she would have went under the radar while still holding her same anti-scientific views. Moreover, I think an argument can be made that she is, in some sense, quite useful to her party. Her notoriety has garnered lots of attention and her fund raising efforts have raised quite a bit of money. The people that are likely to vote for her (or for her republican counterparts) probably don’t care a heck of a lot about committee assignments. They relish the fact that there is someone in Congress who is not afraid to stand up to the libs and make her opinions known. Besides, the GOP has very little to offer on actual substantive issues anyway, like climate change, gun control, income inequality, pandemic mitigation, etc., so they have become the party of culture wars. There will be no end to the issues that really concern republicans, like Dr. Seuss’s books, Joe Biden’s “unpresidential” dog, Jill Biden’s “doctor” designation, the war on Christmas, personal pronouns, Hunter Biden’s laptop, the war on Thanksgiving, athletes who kneel, the Congress women known as “the squad”, Trump’s delusional claims of a stolen election, Bill Gates’ nefarious vaccine ambitions, etc. And MTG is a great spokesperson for them on that front.   

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Yup.

Despite ASD’s assertions that I support voting rights only for political purposes, I see no legitimate way to prevent people from voting for someone like this.  If this is who the voters of her district want… that’s who they get.  The only responses are to move there and vote yourself, or to help organize an opposition candidate and election campaign.  I am opposed to pretty much any barrier of entry to either being a candidate, voting for a candidate, or voting.  I’m probably more of a voting rights absolutist than Icehorse claims he’s a free speech absolutist.

Heck, I’d support lowering the voting age to 12, since that’s when most people either reach, or will soon reach, Piaget’s “formal operations” stage of development.  Why?  Because I think everyone should have the opportunity to vote.

 
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unsmoked - 11 June 2021 12:43 PM
MrRon - 10 June 2021 04:31 PM

If it were up to me, denial of basic scientific facts would immediately disqualify someone from holding public office. Regardless of someone’s politics, I want to know that the people in power are at the very least dealing in reality. That’s not asking for much.

Ron

In his Letter to a Christian Nation Sam Harris writes:  “Those with the power to elect our president and congressmen - and many who themselves get elected - believe that dinosaurs lived two by two upon Noah’s ark, that light from distant galaxies was created en route to the earth, and that the first members of our species were fashioned out of dirt and divine breath, in a garden with a talking snake, by the hand of an invisible God.  Among developed nations, America stands alone in these convictions.  Our country now appears, as at no other time in her history, like a lumbering, bellicose, dim-witted giant.”  -  Sam Harris, 2006.

I remember really enjoying Letter To A Christian Nation when it first came out. I’ll have to go back and re-read it to refresh my memory. Thanks for this, Unsmoked!

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weird buffalo - 11 June 2021 01:33 PM
MrRon - 11 June 2021 06:43 AM
weird buffalo - 10 June 2021 07:12 PM

Her refusal to deal with reality has already largely stripped her of power.  She has less influence in congress than some staffers because she has no committee assignments.  I’m fine with people voting for who they want.  If they want to send a useless person to congress, they’ll get a useless congressperson.

True, but had she not been so outspoken and openly antagonistic she would have went under the radar while still holding her same anti-scientific views. Moreover, I think an argument can be made that she is, in some sense, quite useful to her party. Her notoriety has garnered lots of attention and her fund raising efforts have raised quite a bit of money. The people that are likely to vote for her (or for her republican counterparts) probably don’t care a heck of a lot about committee assignments. They relish the fact that there is someone in Congress who is not afraid to stand up to the libs and make her opinions known. Besides, the GOP has very little to offer on actual substantive issues anyway, like climate change, gun control, income inequality, pandemic mitigation, etc., so they have become the party of culture wars. There will be no end to the issues that really concern republicans, like Dr. Seuss’s books, Joe Biden’s “unpresidential” dog, Jill Biden’s “doctor” designation, the war on Christmas, personal pronouns, Hunter Biden’s laptop, the war on Thanksgiving, athletes who kneel, the Congress women known as “the squad”, Trump’s delusional claims of a stolen election, Bill Gates’ nefarious vaccine ambitions, etc. And MTG is a great spokesperson for them on that front.   

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Yup.

Despite ASD’s assertions that I support voting rights only for political purposes, I see no legitimate way to prevent people from voting for someone like this.  If this is who the voters of her district want… that’s who they get.  The only responses are to move there and vote yourself, or to help organize an opposition candidate and election campaign.  I am opposed to pretty much any barrier of entry to either being a candidate, voting for a candidate, or voting.  I’m probably more of a voting rights absolutist than Icehorse claims he’s a free speech absolutist.

Heck, I’d support lowering the voting age to 12, since that’s when most people either reach, or will soon reach, Piaget’s “formal operations” stage of development.  Why?  Because I think everyone should have the opportunity to vote.

It’s an interesting discussion to have. Should our elected officials have some bare bones baseline level of knowledge, or should it really be “anything goes”? We expect pilots, plumbers, electricians, accountants, hairdressers, etc. to demonstrate some level of proficiency in their field. But when it comes to high level public officials who have the potential to impact all of our lives on a much greater level, we have no screening requirements. Which obviously explains how we got a self-described very stable genius who suggested injecting disinfectant to treat a virus, claimed that windmills cause cancer, thought stealth aircraft were actually invisible, reportedly suggested nuking hurricanes, etc. as President. 

I think a simple essay would have eliminated Trump from candidacy. His level of diction, poor vocabulary and syntax, lack of depth of thought, lack of ability to elaborate and stay on point, etc. would have been red flags. Combine that with a simple multiple choice quiz on various and relevant topics and you’d get a pretty good idea whether or not someone is fit to make monumental decisions for the entire country.     

That being said, it’s probably unrealistic to implement something like that. And your point about voters getting who they want is well taken. I just wish there would be some way to eliminate the truly fringe candidates. 

Ron

 
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11 June 2021 21:49
 

I had a little look at Georgia’s 14th Congressional District — the one that MTG represents.

Georgia’s 14th congressional district was created in 2012 following the 2010 Census, when Georgia gained a 14th seat in the U.S. House of Representatives. ... The District could be considered poorer, whiter, and less educated than the rest of the U.S.

https://randomterrabytes.net/2021/02/02/what-does-georgias-14th-district-expect-from-marjorie-taylor-greene/

A few more tidbits:

The 14th District is no stranger to the culture wars. Situated between Chattanooga, Tennessee, and Atlanta, and bordered by Alabama to the west, the 12-county district was once represented by Larry McDonald (when it was considered the 7th District), a conservative Southern Democrat and second president of the John Birch Society, which opposed the civil rights movement as well as socialism, totalitarianism, and communism.

I particularly find this amusing:

The district’s biggest city of Rome — population 36,000 and situated off the Oostanaula River — is home to a statue known as the Capitoline Wolf, once thought to be a gift from the Italian dictator Benito Mussolini. The statue, inspired by Roman mythology, features a wolf with eight swollen teats nursing Romulus and Remus, their genitals exposed. Beneath the tableau, a plaque reads: “This statue of the Capitoline Wolf, as a forecast of prosperity and glory, has been sent from Ancient Rome to New Rome, during the consulship of Benito Mussolini, in the year 1929.

Selena Tilly, a local historian, told Insider that during big events, some townspeople in this conservative burg would cover up the wolf’s teats and put diapers on Romulus and Remus.

As it turns out, the statue actually was not a gift from Mussolini but the Tubize Chatillon Corporation, an Italian textile company that used it as a kind of branding. Still, Mussolini knew about “new Rome” in Georgia, Tilly said, and commissioned Italian artists to send a gift to the textile factory’s Rome outpost in Georgia: a cornerstone cut from the Roman Colosseum. (Local lore later conflated the cornerstone and statue as the Mussolini gift).

Then, inexplicably, Mussolini ghosted the Southern town.

“The gift never arrived,” Tilly said. “We are still waiting on the stone.””

https://fintecology.com/2021/05/22/what-marjorie-taylor-greenes-constituents-really-think-of-her/

What can we say? There are people who think, (if you can call it that), just like Greene. Her constituents are small-town and small-minded. There is a right wing, authoritarian, extremist bent to this area going back through the last century and probably beyond. I’d bet that secretly they wouldn’t mind if Trump became dictator — the Orange Il Duce. Greene represents their attitudes and feelings; their fears and resentments. God, Guns, Babies. This is how democracy works, at least, at the moment.

 

 
 
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On the news I see where Europeans are breathing a sigh of relief hearing Biden’s “America is back!”  However, I heard someone mutter, “Oui, mais 74 millions d’entre eux ont vote pour Trump.” 

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/mind-in-the-machine/201712/analysis-trump-supporters-has-identified-5-key-traits

 
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12 June 2021 12:29
 

The GOP has truly become the party of stupid and fear.  They blindly follow one ignorant loudmouth bigot at all costs, even at their own loss.

 
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unsmoked - 12 June 2021 12:17 PM

On the news I see where Europeans are breathing a sigh of relief hearing Biden’s “America is back!”  However, I heard someone mutter, “Oui, mais 74 millions d’entre eux ont vote pour Trump.” 

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/mind-in-the-machine/201712/analysis-trump-supporters-has-identified-5-key-traits

Yep. Even Boris Johnson called Biden a “breath of fresh air.”